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But where’s the proof, Doug? Can you give us an example of when Democrats have EVER won a national election by “going left?” I wouldn’t use FDR, by the way; one of his campaign promises in 1932 was to balance the budget – seriously! And that was one of his very first acts (after the bank holiday) when he took office. Obviously, his fiscal discipline didn’t last all that long…
But FDR was also a pragmatist, someone who was willing to try just about anything to fight the Depression. He was no liberal idealogue.
Doug, where do you get “Over half the nation is experiencing poverty now?”
According to the 2015 census, the national poverty rate was 13.5%; other sources peg it a little higher, to 14.3%.
That’s still too high – but also a far cry from “over half.”
It’s a new era: when the POTUS isn’t afraid to lie openly and brazenly, even when the truth is obvious. Kind of like Nixon saying all of those things he said privately on the tapes directly at press conferences.
Will it matter if he’s corrected over and over again in the media? Or will it become “normal” for the president to make things up and repeat them as matter of fact?
Are these just more distractions like during the campaign? Get people upset about the meaningless lie so they won’t focus on the real policy changes that affect the country?
I think “moderate” may be the wrong word. “Pragmatist” may be better vs. “idealogue.” Many saw Obama as a moderate, but I think he was a quite liberal guy on many issues – but also a pragmatist. In other words, if he thought he could have gotten single payer health care passed in 2009, he would have signed the bill from Congress – but he realized how impractical that was.
Bernie by contrast is an idealogue.
Right, I know the story: there’s some silent “progressive majority” out there that currently doesn’t vote because candidates aren’t “progressive” enough. Get candidates out there who actually talk about raising taxes on the rich, reigning in Wall Street, and single payer health care, and they’ll vote in droves, ushering in some new super-majority of progressives in Congress.
One little problem: the candidates who took this approach in 2016 did worse than the ones who took a more moderate approach:
FYI, America has only rarely had a “progressive majority” in Congress. Democrats may have controlled Congress most of the time between 1932 and 1994, but that’s because for most of that time, liberal Democrats allied themselves with southern conservative Democrats. But southern conservatives gradually abandoned the Democratic party for the Republican party – a big reason Democrats have been out of the majority most of the time since 1994.
Sorry – don’t see the populist approach working in the future. Didn’t work in the past. Maybe 2018 is the time for the ultra-liberals to try it and get it out of their system so we can get back to reality by 2020.
We have to go with what we know now. There’s no proof Russian hacking flipped any vote counts in any state – only that Russian propaganda and WikiLeaks releases played a role.
James Comey’s manipulation near the last minute might undermine the “fair and square” claim – might. It’s not clear to me the guy intended to manipulate the election as he did to throw it to Trump. But, there may have been an organized effort within the FBI to force his hand to do so (either he notifies Congress of new emails…or anti-Clinton members of the FBI leak them). Comey has generally been a straight shooter and has kept out of politics, but his actions were one of a list of things that could have flipped a very close election to Trump. COULD have.
We’ll see, Brian! But I wouldn’t get your hopes up. Impeachment is a political act, not a legal act, and I doubt Republicans would impeach a Republican president unless he had committed some truly horrendous act – or if he isn’t signing the bills they want for big tax cuts, etc.
If he’s signing their bills, they just won’t care what he does, most likely.
I wouldn’t be shocked if he serves eight years, Brian. As you know, incumbents are usually re-elected. The last three incumbents to lose – Bush I, Carter, Herbert Hoover – all lost when the economy was awful. When the economy is OK or good, the president is re-elected. Bush II narrowly won re-election in 2004 despite the catastrophe of the Iraq War (which was still hadn’t become awful yet) – but the economy had picked up.
Incumbency incurs great advantages to a sitting president.
Sure – lots of things could happen. He could be horribly unpopular by 2020 despite a decent economy and the Dems come up with a great candidate. Or the economy tanks and he gets voted out. Or he does something truly nutty and is impeached. But I make no predictions.
Riiiiight. I wonder how long the audit will take now? I’m guessing til about 2021…or maybe 2025.
Yeah, what a MESS Obama left us! I so yearn for the jobs numbers, the deficit, and the DOW on the day Obama took office in 2009 and messed it all up – doh!
Republicans in Congress can impeach and remove him whenever they find it pragmatic to do so – but Trump would have to become pretty unpopular first (I mean, much less popular than now), do some really egregious stuff, and they might boot him out. Recall that the guy still has a lot of supporters in the party – and you can’t piss them off without really good cause.
But it’s going to take a whole lot more than crazy press conferences. Remember: the Republican base has been trained to hate the media, so many of them are probably cheering any time Trump or his spokespeople tangle with the media.
And even if Republicans could impeach and remove the guy, we’d be stuck with…Mike Pence. Cold comfort, isn’t it?
My money’s on the Eagles.
I am pretty sure the tax returns would have been leaked by now if someone had a way to get at them.
I suppose the new president might be asked a direct question by a reporter at a press conference (“You said you would release your taxes after the audit”), but now it seems he is hand picking the reporters who will be allowed in the White House briefing room. If you want to be allowed in, you can’t ask him questions he won’t like, perhaps.
In any case – the tax issue should be dropped. It’s a distraction and has nothing at all to do with current issues.
None of this is surprising to me. I’m guessing it will get far worse and more obscene.
Yeah, he can “fix” things by ending insurance for millions of Americans and cutting Medicare and social security benefits. If only those people would just die early – that would “fix” a lot of problems, right?