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My Dad died of lung cancer at an even younger age than Limbaugh, and I wouldn’t wish this horrible disease on anyone, even Limbaugh. But I shed no tears at his absence on the radio or on earth. It’s not his “message” I objected to – it’s the negative influence I believe he had on society.
Before Senate Democrats are able to get rid of the filibuster, they’re going to need support of some conservative Democrats like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, both of whom have expressed reluctance to get rid of it.
More likely is that the filibuster would be weakened. E.g. instead of forcing the majority to show up to vote to break a filibuster, as is required now, force the minority to show up to sustain it. Also, we may see more “flexibility” in what is allowed in budget reconciliation bills, though again both Sinema and Manchin seem reluctant to support that either.
radiogeek: “Congress needs to immediately pass a new resolution on majority vote to invoke the provision in the 14th amendment that gives them the power to bar Trump from ever holding office again.”
How do you get 60 votes in the Senate for that? Presumably there are only 57 base on the trial vote.
To be fair to McConnell, he announced before the vote that his caucus members were free to vote on their “conscience” – he wasn’t going to “whip” the vote (which I believe he did in the last impeachment trial). And I doubt he could have persuaded nine other Republicans to come along had he voted to convict – on the contrary, doing so might have threatened his leadership position.
But sure, McConnell isn’t a better human being for pretending to be so upset with Trump (his speech after the vote today) even after he voted not to convict. Still a moral coward.
I also agree that it will be difficult for a Merrick Garland Justice Department to pursue federal charges, so that probably won’t happen.
Will Trump get taken down by indictments or lawsuits in one of the states? Maybe. The investigation in Georgia might be most worrisome, but who knows what will come of that – maybe nothing. People have been talking about what New York is going to do – again, we’ll see. Civil suits will keep Trump’s lawyers busy for a few years but probably no worry for him.
If I were Democrats, I’d be very worried about the near future, whether Trump runs again in 2024 or not. These two years where they control both houses of Congress and the presidency may be their political peak again for the next 6-8 years. Gotta get things done while they can!
Yeah, I don’t see 17 Republicans coming around to to vote to convict Trump. Not a surprise. It’s not about facts or evidence. They care more about their own political careers than about the safety of the country or about protecting our country. Because you know for sure, if Trump could get away with this now with no penalty, then he or someone worse will try again.February 6, 2021 at 6:51 pm in reply to: The change in programming was routine and had nothing to do with the lawsuit #49657
I love any excuse to share my favorite Onion piece of all time. Only wish it were true…February 6, 2021 at 11:57 am in reply to: The change in programming was routine and had nothing to do with the lawsuit #49655
Right – Fox Business routinely cancels their highest-rated shows just for the hell of it. Nothing to do with the lawsuit LOL!
There’s no doubt that they are fractured right now. They were pretty fractured in 2016 before Trump won, too. Remember how many prominent Republicans in Congress were vocally anti-Trump? They looked like a party in chaos, with so many Republicans openly attacking their nominee. But once Trump won, everyone fell in line very quickly behind him. Things can change a whole lot by November 2022.
I of course hope the GOP truly does implode and the Democrats do better than expected in 2022. I’m just not counting on it.
I’ve lost count of the number of times the GOP was supposedly on its last legs and doomed as a party. How many people predicted that after Obama’s big win in 2008 where Democrats increased their majorities in Congress? Did many predict the GOP’s big House gains to pick up the House in 2010?
Before Trump unexpectedly won in 2016, there were plenty of predictions that he had destroyed the GOP with his expected failed candidacy, yet somehow Republicans had control over everything for two years from 2017-2019.
Given how poorly Democrats did in the 2020 Congressional elections (losing, not gaining House seats, winning only a few Senate seats despite so many GOP seats up for grabs), I don’t really see a rosy picture for Democrats going forward. Looks pretty precarious to me. Biden barely won enough votes in three states to win the electoral college. I can easily see Republicans re-taking Congress in 2022 and winning the presidency again in 2024 – things don’t have to swing much back toward the GOP for that to happen.
But no one really knows. So much could happen between now and then that none of us can predict. I don’t think many people thought a year ago that the Covid virus was going to dominate Trump’s last year in office and upend everything.
Rand Paul managed to get a Senate vote today on whether there should be an impeachment trial of Trump at all (whether such a trial is constitutional now that Trump is out of office.) Paul’s motion lost (it passed affirming the need for a trial) but only five Republicans voted for it. That suggests it’s going to be pretty unlikely Democrats will get more than five Republican votes at most at the actual trial.
Impeachment was necessary as a deterrent on Trump in his last two weeks in office not to do anything (else) stupid until he left – and there has to be SOME consequence for inciting an insurrection, doesn’t there???
Yes, let’s have Republicans on the record voting NO against punishing someone who tried to incite an insurrection, at least.
Marjorie Taylor Greene is the new House member from QAnon. By definition, pretty much everything she says or does involves one of their nutty conspiracy theories.
I don’t think Cindy McCain has much to worry about.
Nobody knows whats going to happen in the next few weeks, but after the capitol insurgency last week, clearly law enforcement is on high alert everywhere. So there may not be any major disturbances.
Once Biden takes over the government, the feds will be able to be mobilized as needed.
Yep, I agree, edselehr.
I think it’s irrelevant whether the Senate actually starts the trial in time to remove him or not. The House can impeach him without the senate and force the trial. That keeps the heat on Trump – he knows that if he does something horrendous again like order another march on the Capitol or something, the Senate can expedite the trial and boot him out – plus ban him from ever running from office again. The Senate trial can continue even after January 20 and if convicted, then they can vote to ban him from office.
The alternative – where the House says, “Yeah, never mind – we don’t need to impeach him” lets him off the hook and lets rest easier. And we don’t want him to think he can get away with something worse.