May 3, 2021 at 5:16 pm #50495Andy BrownParticipant
Do we know how big the anti vaxxers were before the pandemic? I’m curious as to how much that group has grown, if at all.May 3, 2021 at 7:53 pm #50497lastdayParticipant
What I’m observing in Eugene after Lane County was moved back to Extreme Risk:
Some eateries haven’t bothered to take down their signs saying Inside Seating Available. Don’t know if they’re flouting the rules or just tired of changing that sign.
With relatively good weather lately, outdoor seating has really taken off.
Masking seems same as for the last six months or more.
Demand for vaccinations has fallen. I think this is Oregon’s final big push to get as many people vaccinated as possible. In June or July they’ll throw their hands up (along with the rest of the country) and admit they’ve done as much as possible and lift most if not all restrictions. We’ll all be on our own. Of course this has already been telegraphed by officials.
BTW I think at this point, paying people to get vaccinated is a great idea. If a box of Krispy Kreme donuts is what it takes to get fools vaccinated, then free donuts for everyone. (That’s a real thing if you haven’t heard.)May 3, 2021 at 8:54 pm #50498paulwalkerParticipant
Those who refuse vaccinations are, and have always been, part of the problem. Fortunately, history has shown this to be a small percentage of the population. But not with covid. Record low acceptance of the vaccine. I blame a couple of things for this. First, a general distrust of government. Second, an agenda from the previous potus who never really had a serious plan to fight it. Just an utter failure from 45.May 4, 2021 at 8:10 am #50510Master of DisasterParticipant
Those who refuse vaccinations are, and have always been, part of the problem.
One-hundred-percent agreed. The Master of Disaster was finally able to get the first dose at Tower Mall in Vancouver recently. The paperwork asked for minimal information. Lots of Oregon plates there. People were walking up to the entrance. A few were either wearing plastic shields and even nothing over their faces at all. They all appeared to have received the vaccine anyhow. They had paramedics standing by in case of severe allergic reaction.
As far as the Master of Disaster is concerned, unless someone has a bona fide and professionally-diagnosed life-sustaining medical reason, there is otherwise no excuse not to get the vaccine. Those who cite “religion” need to take a step back and realize they live in a country that gives them a right to practice that religion. Those who cite “freedom” need to take a step back and realize they live in a country that gives them the right to make that claim. I could go on, but it all comes down to the fact the United States gave them the right to make that statement, but they don’t have a right to be correct or uninformed.May 4, 2021 at 10:46 am #50513BroadwayParticipant
In discussions with friends/family about the topic of reasons for not getting vac’d is they think their immune systems are strong enough to ward off getting infected…or they’ve had covid already…nothing political or religious.
Wife and I got vaccinated last March with no problems.May 4, 2021 at 7:56 pm #50522
Broadway: “In discussions with friends/family about the topic of reasons for not getting vac’d is they think their immune systems are strong enough to ward off getting infected…or they’ve had covid already”
This kind of thinking infuriates me. How can they be so dim not to understand that they might give it to someone whose immune system is NOT strong enough??? That’s the point of getting vaccinated: to stop the spread, not just protect yourself. The reason Covid spreads so easily is that people get infected and are highly contagious before they develop symptoms, if they develop them at all. Incredibly selfish!!!!May 4, 2021 at 11:55 pm #50523Andy BrownParticipant
More stupid than selfish IMO.
It’s not “political” on the surface, but it is because the 23%rs are incredibly naive when it comes to anything scientific. They are that way because they have been herded into a mentality that rejects anything coming out of Washington D.C. if it’s not out of the mouth of the big orange hemorrhoid himself. It has been a true evolution of ignorance and stupidity. Not to mention that the majority of the conservative half of government have lost their minds, totally.
It’s sad that many will die due to the stupidity of other Americans. Add to that all that have already passed away because of the orange turd’s avarice and lust for power.May 8, 2021 at 3:30 pm #50550Dan PackardKeymaster
And we all know the world is really flat. 🤕October 1, 2021 at 1:10 pm #51617lastdayParticipant
Pfizer booster: ✅October 1, 2021 at 2:39 pm #51621
I’ve come to think of these additional shots not as “boosters” but as a completion of the vaccine series. This wouldn’t be the first vaccine to be designed with multiple shots spread out months apart to incur maximum immunity. That is, the vaccines aren’t “waning” – the dosing schedule was never optimized, it was rushed to get maximum immunity in a short time as quickly as possible. Two shots a few weeks apart of the mRNA vaccines was better in the short term but not in the long term.
I got the J&J so not officially eligible for any booster yet. But I am contemplating taking matters into my own hands soon – studies have shown a big boost in immunity from a second J&J shot months later. It’s always been less effective than the mRNA vaccines in every way – I see no reason to wait if I can find a way to get a second shot now – why wait for the FDA to dick around for another few months? I suspect a lot of vaccines are being thrown away after expiring anyway lately.October 1, 2021 at 7:58 pm #51630Jeffrey KoppParticipant
Mom and I are already scheduled for a booster shot on Tuesday at Walgreen’s.October 1, 2021 at 9:24 pm #51632Chris_TaylorParticipant
I just had my annual wellness check and my doctor said that the booster is really just a third shot.October 2, 2021 at 7:34 pm #51643paulwalkerParticipant
Yep, same shot as the first two. Mine is coming up in a couple weeks. I think we may finally be coming to the end of this and it is mostly due to higher vaccinations.October 2, 2021 at 7:56 pm #51644VitalogyParticipant
I don’t think it’s going to be over anytime soon.October 2, 2021 at 11:09 pm #51645
It’s hard to predict how the pandemic will progress. But the UK’s sustained numbers for the last three months are a little alarming: they had a peak that fell quickly but has not falling off much in the last few months. Despite a high rate of vaccination, they still have sustained case rates that aren’t dropping.
Israel’s numbers are finally falling, but they have aggressively been pushing third shots, in addition to a high vaccination rate. We seem to be way behind them; third shots are authorized only for a small part of the population, and we still have a large unvaccinated population.
Covid will become endemic eventually, more of a nuisance than something that paralyzes society. New treatments coming out like Merck’s look very promising.
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