Trump loses travel ban

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  • #27104
    paulwalker
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    In a 3-0 decision, Trump’s travel ban will not go into effect for now. Likely will end up in Supreme Court, where there are 4 appointees from each side. A tie goes to the lower court.

    #27106
    Andy Brown
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    Good news and it means the TRO stands while the next appeal goes to SCOTUS. The decision was unanimous. That’s significant.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/us/politics/appeals-court-trump-travel-ban.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

    drumpf will be tweeting fire and brimstone tonight, you can count on it.

    Overall a bad day for team drumpf as many are calling for Kellyanne Conjob’s head on a stake and drumpf is trying to spin his own SCOTUS nominee being disgusted with drumpf’s attitude, another story that will get drowned out by this one.

    #27109
    Andy Brown
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    What’s important is that the decision:

    rejects the drumpf administration’s argument that the government has broad deference in matters of national security

    and

    rejects that the government’s decisions are unreviewable, and to that end, considered Washington’s and Minnesota’s arguments on due process and religious discrimination. The panel felt that there is a strong likelihood the states would prevail on the merits of the case, so the temporary restraining order, which is now essentially a preliminary injunction, will remain in place while the lower courts consider the legality of the travel ban and drumpf’s lawyers prepare appealing to SCOTUS.

    #27110
    LurkingGrendel
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    Dear Leader will no doubt continue to attack the courts; as is the wont of all those who actively work to undermine our Constitution as they’d prefer to be a dictator/autocrat as opposed to being The President with all of those pesky checks and balances.

    And I’m not sure we’re looking at a 4-4 at The Supreme Court.

    While 3/4 of the conservative leaning crew are reliably able to put aside objective reason in favor of utter partisanship on a regular basis, The Chief Justice is not automatically assured of behaving in the same manner. I can easily imagine John Roberts siding against Twitler. The government’s case is leaky and ill considered; something that was made clearly apparent during the 9th Circuit Court proceedings.

    #27113
    Amus
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    Crazy Leader

    #27114
    LurkingGrendel
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    What a fucking moron.

    His tweet: (And yes, The Orange Douche posted it in all caps.)

    SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!

    Apparently Donald is unaware that decision came from a court. It’s kind of how things work in this country.

    He’s also apparently unaware that these tweets simply make him look like a fucking idiot.

    I know children with better netiquette and impulse control.

    #27115
    LurkingGrendel
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    I wonder if he’s tired of all of this winning, yet?

    #27121
    Broadway
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    #27122
    Vitalogy
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    Yes, here they come!!!!

    First off, what other murderous dictators do you like to believe?

    Second, the proof is in the pudding. There’s more right wing religious attacks/shootings in the US as compared to refugees or immigrants doing the same. Jerk.

    #27123
    Andrew
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    I’m wondering what happens if Trump orders DHS to ignore the court order and enforce the ban anyway?

    Will Congress intervene and try to stop him if he does so? I doubt it.

    On the other hand: could be Trump doesn’t really give a rip about the Muslim ban and is just trying to fulfill a campaign promise. At least he can say he tried. He can rile up his base for the next four years over it – let’s change the courts, blah blah blah.

    #27124

    Congrats to the Ninth Circus and the big win for the Libs and for terrorists abroad. It’s only our national security at stake, but who cares if means smacking down Trump?

    #27125
    Andrew
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    The big win for “terrorists abroad” happened on 11/8/2016.

    #27127
    Vitalogy
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    Big win for the Constitution. Big loss for Trump and his asshole followers. Dictators like Trump can’t just run roughshod.

    #27128
    edselehr
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    “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” – Benjamin Franklin

    Food for thought, Bacon and Broadway.

    #27130

    Weighing in on one of the most contentious issues in American politics — the danger posed to host countries by the 4.8 million people who have fled from Syria’s civil war — Syrian President Bashar Assad told Yahoo News that some of the refugees are “definitely” terrorists.

    In an exclusive interview with Yahoo News at a presidential office in Damascus, Assad said President Trump’s freeze on admitting refugees from his country — part of an executive order that has drawn widespread protests and is being challenged in federal court — “is an American issue” on which he would not take sides. But asked if some of those who fled are “aligned with terrorists,” Assad quickly replied, “Definitely.”

    “You can find it on the Net,” Assad went on: “Those terrorists in Syria, holding the machine gun or killing people, they [appear as] peaceful refugees in Europe or in the West.” He said he couldn’t estimate how many there might be, but he added that “you don’t need a significant number to commit atrocities.” He noted that the 9/11 attacks were pulled off by fewer than 20 terrorists “out of maybe millions of immigrants in the United States. So it’s not about the number, it’s about the quality, it’s about the intentions.”

    As for the future of Syria’s 4.8 million refugees, Assad said, “For me, the priority is to bring those citizens to their country, not to help them immigrate.”

    As with all interviews granted by President Bashar al-Assad, this interview was filmed by his presidential press office. No editorial changes were made to the content.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-syrias-assad-tells-yahoo-news-some-refugees-are-definitely-terrorists-182401926.html

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