January 25, 2021 at 4:18 pm #49539paulwalkerParticipant
It is now official. There have only been four impeachments in US history. Trump now has two of the four. Of course a conviction is not likely due to Republican senators who refuse to believe Trump incited on January 6th and/or put their own seats at risk.January 25, 2021 at 8:36 pm #49542
Conviction will not happen but it’s a shitty, terrible vote to have to make as a Republican. Let’s put them on record.January 25, 2021 at 9:33 pm #49543AndrewParticipant
Impeachment was necessary as a deterrent on Trump in his last two weeks in office not to do anything (else) stupid until he left – and there has to be SOME consequence for inciting an insurrection, doesn’t there???
Yes, let’s have Republicans on the record voting NO against punishing someone who tried to incite an insurrection, at least.January 25, 2021 at 10:21 pm #49546semoochieParticipant
Did we talk about the fact that after four years of absolute loyalty from Mike Pence, he told Trump that he wouldn’t do what he had no power to do and Trump got angry and shared that little morsel with his minions. They rushed the Capitol, chanting “Hang Mike Pence!” and Trump said absolutely nothing in his defense! Here’s someone who defended his every lie, despicable act and other felonies and stood by while he made fun of his religion! If he did this to Pence, what hope is there for anyone? How evil can you get? How many of the 74 million who voted for this monster, think this is acceptable behavior? Keep in mind that this is the best case scenario! Just not defending Pence is enough to prove how evil Trump really is!
January 26, 2021 at 1:12 am #49549Andy BrownParticipant
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I expect the split in the GOP to only deepen when the House lawyers lay out the big picture, complete with drumpf’s tweets and public statements BEFORE January 6th. It’s going to be difficult to let drumpfilthinskin get away with murder after the entire public, including and most importantly the constituents of some Republicans, understand the planning that went into the big attempt to steal the election which culminated in the riot.
I’m not counting on anything, but getting 17 votes may not be impossible. McConjob plays a big role. He knows it’s the best chance to rid the party of drumpf. They all rode the weasel but now that he’s lost and in the crosshairs, we might see some backpedaling on the less radical conservative end of the party. Will it be enough? I don’t know. No one does. Let the trial proceed. Who knows what other revelations may come down during the proceeding.January 26, 2021 at 11:49 am #49552
I wouldn’t count on it.
False flag? The OR GOP is bat shit.January 26, 2021 at 1:00 pm #49554semoochieParticipant
This is a bit disconcerting, not unlike being told that Mt. Tabor is now active!January 26, 2021 at 1:32 pm #49557Deane JohnsonParticipant
The old adage “It isn’t over until the fat lady sings” is certainly applicable in this situation.January 26, 2021 at 3:04 pm #49560January 26, 2021 at 6:54 pm #49562AndrewParticipant
Rand Paul managed to get a Senate vote today on whether there should be an impeachment trial of Trump at all (whether such a trial is constitutional now that Trump is out of office.) Paul’s motion lost (it passed affirming the need for a trial) but only five Republicans voted for it. That suggests it’s going to be pretty unlikely Democrats will get more than five Republican votes at most at the actual trial.January 26, 2021 at 7:33 pm #49563lastdayParticipant
Rand Paul is messed up in the head.January 27, 2021 at 1:18 am #49566Andy BrownParticipant
This article in the NYT suggests there are at least 8 Republican jurors (5 who voted against the Rand motion and 3 that supported it) that are potential yes on conviction votes. As opposite to how Rand Paul would like to spin it and make it appear there’s no chance of a conviction, there are plenty of GOP Senators anxious to hear the case and then decide.February 12, 2021 at 3:50 pm #49700lastdayParticipant
As Impeachment Trial #2 proceeds, the silence here is deafening. I suspect it’s because we know spineless GOP senators would rather be waterboarded than take a stand against Trump. The outcome is already known. The evidence doesn’t really matter much.
OTOH, the evidence means a lot to a whole lot of people. Trump’s star is falling like a ton of bricks as each day passes.February 12, 2021 at 5:43 pm #49701bookemdonoParticipant
Pretty damning story about Kevin McCarthy calling trump to get him to call the rioters off. Trump’s response:
Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are,” Trump said.
The spineless d-bags of the QOP are now saying since the house managers did such a stellar job of presenting their case that they don’t need to convict him to essentially “disqualify” him from future office. They’re hinting that his brand has been tarnished so badly that there’s no way he’d get elected anyway.
Hoping all the senators that vote to acquit are relegated to the trash heap of history come next election.February 12, 2021 at 6:59 pm #49702mwdxer1Participant
I would be very surprised if 67 vote against Trump. The GOP is scared of the voter back home. But if they let him go, this will be a great campaign statement in the next couple of years, that Trump was let go. The Dem’s may get more seats.
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