Trump Campaign colluded with Russia

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  • #38816

    Vitalogy
    Participant

    The ever changing story of the Trump Tower meeting with Trump officials and the Rooskies proves collusion occurred.

    And with Trump covering it up, he’s also guilty of obstruction of justice.

    Colluding with an enemy nation and then covering it up. That’s what happened. And as more news comes out, it will be more apparent to even the most brain challenged.

    #38819

    bookemdono
    Participant
    #38822

    cbaravelli
    Spectator

    Collusion is no crime.
    https://nationalparalegal.edu/ViewNews.aspx?intTakeOnNewsID=129
    Conspiracy is. So is aiding and abetting.
    We all know all this since May 2017. Where were you? Nevermind. Rhetorical question.

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    #38829

    Vitalogy
    Participant

    When the collusion involves a foreign national providing the Trump campaign “a thing of value”, it most certainly is a crime.

    #38832

    cbaravelli
    Spectator

    Good luck arguing that in a Federal Court.

    #38834

    Chris_taylor
    Participant

    Collusion, as I understand it, isn’t a crime. However, if collusion is part of a conspiracy to cover up crimes with foreign nationals, then you have a crime.

    The Manafort/Gates trial may be some foreshadowing on what could be considered criminal collusion/conspiracy. Been an interesting case to follow.

    #38835

    cbaravelli
    Spectator
    #38836

    bookemdono
    Participant

    And what a surprise that Manafort is intricately linked to Wilbur Ross via his Cyprus bank. They’re both a couple of grifters.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/23/1646387/-Paul-Manafort-used-Wilbur-Ross-Bank-of-Cyprus-to-handle-all-his-illicit-Russian-funding-needs

    #38838

    Vitalogy
    Participant

    (a) Prohibition. It shall be unlawful for—
    (1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—
    (A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;

    (B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or

    (C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title)

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30121

    Potentially damaging information about a candidate given to the oppositions campaign by a foreign national is a “thing of value” and is illegal. Seems pretty black and white to me.

    #38839

    cbaravelli
    Spectator

    An intelligent response! I am so proud of you.
    Need three prongs to show cause for conspiracy. Where are they? Still won’t fly in Federal Court. Keep trying!

    #38840

    cbaravelli
    Spectator

    ” Seems pretty black and white to me.”
    An intelligent response! I am so proud of you. Except there were no discussions concerning Hillary dirt. At least not at that second meeting. Yes, there were two meetings and we knew all this 16 months ago.
    Need three prongs to show cause for conspiracy. Where are they? Still won’t fly in Federal Court. Keep trying!

    #38845

    Vitalogy
    Participant

    While they didn’t get the dirt on Clinton, the law was broken when they attempted to do so.

    Then a bunch of people lied about it and attempted to cover it up. Many liars all lying about the Trump Tower meeting.

    3 prongs is irrelevant.

    The campaign worked with Russia to win the US election for president.

    #38846

    cbaravelli
    Spectator

    We agree.
    Ruskis provided much in the DNC Steele Dossier which became Clinton’s October Suprise which, along with FBI Comey Weiner/Abedin e-mails, lost Clinton the Presidency.
    “3 prongs is [gic] irrelevant.”
    Glad you are not an attorney.

    #38848

    semoochie
    Participant

    I don’t remember anymore but it seems to me that Trump used the term, “collusion” before it came into common usage. If that’s true, it makes perfect sense for him to say he isn’t guilty of something that isn’t a legal term and just wait until they catch up with him and then say it isn’t a crime.

    #38858

    Andy Brown
    Participant

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