Trump bombs at Al Smith Dinner

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    Side bar: Maria Bartiromo’s cleavage was on full display in the background.


    Imagine that.

    A sexual predator bombs at a benefit for catholic charities.


    Catholics give more to help the poor than anyone else.

    They also support the right to life for all from conception until natural death. Not just the convenient life.

    Imagine that.

    Andy Brown

    Baconboy: “Catholics give more to help the poor than anyone else.”

    Guess again, baconboy.

    Roman Catholics and Christians were just about tied for second to the bottom in recent research,

    Muslims give more to charity than other religious groups, new research suggests.

    At almost £371 each, Muslims topped the poll of religious groups that give to charity.

    When they donated last year, atheists averaged £116, The Times reported (£).

    The ICM poll found that Jewish donors gave an average of £270 per person.

    Roman Catholics averaged just over £178, Christians just under £178 and Protestants £202.


    Frpm Politico:

    Dolan said the three of them prayed together. “And after the little prayer, Mr. Trump turned to Secretary Clinton and said, ‘You know, you are one tough and talented woman,’” he recalled. “And he said, ‘This has been a good experience in this whole campaign, as tough as it’s been,’ and she said to him, ‘And Donald, whatever happens, we need to work together afterwards.’ Now I thought: This is the evening at its best.”

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    Oh my! Oh no! Donald said one thing in public and another in private! LOL (Cue Dork’s head exploding.)

    In a campaign of seemingly endless, lower than low, firsts Trump scored another one last night. He’s the only presidential candidate ever booed at that dinner.

    I can’t imagine why he’d have any problems there. It’s not as if he’s engaged in serial lying, bigotry, racism, misogyny, bullying, taunting, insult hurling, and generally behaved in a manner completely at odds with what Christianity claims to support. Or, actually been rebuked by The Pope for his un Christian speech and proposals regarding his ridiculous wall.

    Oh, wait.


    I don’t think he has any problems with practicing Catholics. They will give him good support, since his policies are more in alignment with Catholic principles than those of Clinton. Note the word “practicing.” Tim Kaine does not “practice” his faith, for example. Polls that reflect Catholic support for pro-abortion Democrat candidates are including those who are no longer practicing their faith.

    The Donald will do well with informed practicing Catholics.


    They certainly didn’t support him last night.


    Or in the polling. He’s going down. Hard.


    More silly bacon bits:

    “The Donald will do well with informed practicing Catholics”

    Hillary nailed it at the benifit:

    “Every year, this dinner brings together a collection of sensible, committed, mainstream Republicans, or as we now like to call them, Hillary supporters.”


    And there are a lot of people in this room tonight who themselves, or their parents or grandparents, came here as immigrants, made a life for yourselves, took advantage of the American dream and the greatest system that has ever been created in the history of the world to unleash the individual talents and energy and ambition of everyone willing to work hard.

    And when I think about what Al Smith went through it’s important to just reflect how groundbreaking it was for him, a Catholic, to be my party’s nominee for president. Don’t forget—school boards sent home letters with children saying that if Al Smith is elected president, you will not be allowed to have or read a Bible. Voters were told that he would annul Protestant marriages. And … people even claimed the Holland Tunnel was a secret passageway to connect Rome and America, to help the pope rule our country.

    Those appeals, appeals to fear and division, can cause us to treat each other as the other. Rhetoric like that makes it harder for us to see each other, to respect each other, to listen to each other. And certainly a lot harder to love our neighbor as ourselves.

    I believe how we treat others is the highest expression of faith and of service. I’m not Catholic. I’m a Methodist, but one of the things that we share is the belief that in order to achieve salvation we need both faith and good works. And you certainly don’t need to be Catholic to be inspired by the humility and heart of the Holy Father, Pope Francis. Or to embrace his message. His message about rejecting a mindset of hostility, his calls to reduce inequality, his warnings about climate change, his appeal that we build bridges, not walls.
    By then, Clinton looked serious, engaged—stepping out of the role of court jester and into the position of a bona fide moral leader.

    Now as you may know, my running mate, Tim, is Catholic and went to Jesuit schools, and one of the things he and I have talked about is this idea from the Jesuits of the Magis, the more, the better. But we need to get better at finding ways to disagree on matters of policy while agreeing on questions of decency and civility. How we talk to each other, treat each other, respect each other.
    So I’ve taken this concept of Magis to heart in this campaign, as best as one can in the daily heat, the back and forth of a presidential campaign, to ask how we can do more for each other, and better for each other. Because I believe that for each of us, our greatest monument on this earth won’t be what we build, but the lives we touch.

    -Hillary Clinton, concluding her remarks at the dinner last night.

    Andy Brown

    baconboy, ignoring the fact that he posted bullshit about the charitable standing of Catholics (see above) has done it twice in one thread.

    He posted: “I don’t think he has any problems with practicing Catholics. They will give him good support,”

    Catholics Deserting GOP’s Trump More Than Any Other Group

    The paper reported the relative shift of Catholics from the Republican candidate in ’12 to Hillary Clinton now is more than any other demographic currently.

    “Catholics have long been a swing vote in presidential elections, and right now they’re swinging hard for Clinton,” The Post’s Aaron Blake wrote.

    “It’s also hard to overstate just how significant Trump’s poor performance among Catholics is. That’s because they comprise about 1/4 of voters in the United States (25 percent in 2012 exit polls) and are about as big a voting bloc as non-whites (28 percent) and independents (29 percent).”

    Also, the notion of ‘practicing’ Catholics supporting drumpf constitutes a small and ever shrinking percentage of all Catholics, Vern, so what do you say you stop posting all this bullshit that just pops into your head as something that supports your wicked fucked up agenda.

    In fact, ‘practicing’ Catholics appear to be less then 10% of Catholics, or roughly 3% of the population. The third party candidates are doing that well or better.


    Being booed by a room full of priests is probably not a good omen.


    Was it really necessary for Trump to say, “I don’t know who they’re angry at, Hillary, you or I? For example, here she is tonight in public, pretending not to hate Catholics?”


    It was pretty clear to everyone but Trump he was both bombing and being booed. Should there be any doubt, Al Smith V himself stated the same earlier this morning and also added he thought he “Crossed the line and took it a little too far”.

    You think?

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