The Pontiff Calls Out the Talibaptists

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  • #4011
    duxrule
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    I like this Pope more and more all of the time. He’s calling out the Talibaptists like DJ and Oz, too:

    The Pope Has A Message For Christian Fundamentalists: You’re No Better Than ISIS

    “…The Pope gave liberals an early Christmas Present this week, on a flight back from Turkey…by drawing a parallel between Christian Fundamentalists and Islamic terror groups such as ISIS.

    When a journalist attempted to draw the Pope into yet another condemnation of the world’s 2 billion Muslims on the basis of the actions of a few thousand – the pontiff dropped a logic bomb.

    “You just can’t say that, just as you can’t say that all Christians are fundamentalists. We have our share of them (fundamentalists). All religions have these little groups,” Pope Francis said.

    With this succinct, unapologetic statement – Pope Francis has said what many of us, religious and not, have been quietly thinking for some time: Christian and Muslim fundamentalists have far more in common with each other than the rest of us.”
    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/12/03/the-pope-has-a-message-for-christian-fundamentalists-youre-no-better-than-isis/

    #4013
    jerry1949
    Spectator

    Damn this pope and his big mouth. Now I have to worry about fundamentalists burning down Catholic Churches and kidnapping and cutting off the heads of Catholics. Way to go papa.

    #4015
    duxrule
    Participant

    Didn’t see my post about the Baptist Pastor in Arizona who says he has a “cure for AIDS,” did you? His “solution” is to kill them all. How does it go? “When they came for…”

    #4016
    jerry1949
    Spectator

    So he represents ALL fundamentalists?

    And how many did he actually kill? Compare his rhetoric to the deeds of Islamic extremists.

    #4018
    Amus
    Participant

    How far back do you want to go?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

    #4019
    missing_kskd
    Participant

    All of it serves to normalize “god hates fags” as a valid and defensible opinion.

    ISIS is killing people. They are doing it on a religious justification.

    Gays are being killed in Uganda, and in parts of Latin America.

    They are doing it on a religious justification.

    The Pope is correct in his comments.

    #4021
    jerry1949
    Spectator

    He’s not referring to fundamentalists in the US who are good people and are not killing anybody as ISIS does. There is no comparison.

    #4022
    missing_kskd
    Participant

    Wrong.

    That kind of rhetoric is completely unacceptable, and again it normalizes violence and discrimination.

    The American Taliban is generally known as dominionists, and it is their goal to see the western equilivilent to sharia law realized here.

    While I agree on the level of violence here in the US not being so comparable, note the more violent regions of the world, such as Uganda, were seeded with the vision by US fundementalist, evangelical advocates.

    Enabling, in this context, means having blood on their hands.

    Discrimination against gay people is not OK, and fundementalists are at the core of global struggles.

    Compartmentalizing it won’t get you anywhere, but increasing davor among the American Taliban.

    The rest of us know better.

    #4023
    Andy Brown
    Participant

    “He’s not referring to fundamentalists in the US who are good people and are not killing anybody as ISIS does. There is no comparison.”

    Oh, really? Here are six examples of Christian fundamentalists operating as radical terrorists. Not refutable, ace.

    The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009

    Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008

    The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994

    The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996.

    The murder of Barnett Slepian byJames Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998.

    Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994

    6 examples of far right christian terrorism

    #4046
    Broadway
    Participant

    apples and oranges…

    #4047
    Amus
    Participant

    Whoa!
    Really?
    Why?!?!
    How?!?

    Is it because killing in the name of Christ is OK if the cause is just in your eyes?
    (I really don’t think you believe that, at least I hope you don’t)

    #4054
    duxrule
    Participant

    How about these guys?

    The Christian Terrorist Movement No One Wants To Talk About

    “Last Friday, Larry McQuilliams was shot and killed by police after unleashing a campaign of violence in Austin, Texas, firing more than 100 rounds in the downtown area before making a failed attempt to burn down the Mexican Consulate…

    …police officers who searched McQuilliams’ van found a copy of “Vigilantes of Christendom,” a book connected with the Phineas Priesthood, an American white supremacist movement that claims Christian inspiration and opposes interracial intercourse, racial integration, homosexuality, and abortion. Phineas priests take their name from the biblical figure Phinehas in the book of Numbers, who is described as brutally murdering an Israelite man for having sex with a foreign woman, who he also kills. Members of the Phineas Priesthood — which people “join” simply by adopting the views of the movement — are notoriously violent, and some adherents have been convicted of bank robberies, bombing abortion clinics, and planning to blow up government buildings.”
    http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/04/3599271/austin-shooter-christian-extremism

    Remember that this isn’t abstract or accusing, this guy ACTUALLY fired more than 100 rounds in downtown Austin. The tip of the iceberg.

    #4069
    skeptical
    Participant

    I’m enjoying the very public spanking this Pope is giving to people who otherwise deserve their heads on pikes.

    #4071
    Andy Brown
    Participant

    “people who otherwise deserve their heads on pikes.”

    Broadway’s pike needs an apple and an orange on the top.

    Evangelists are the scourge of modern America.

    http:www.vatican.org/research/Francis/troublemakers_list.html

    #4093
    duxrule
    Participant

    Check out this dude who runs the Catholic League. I think we’ve found Jerry’s mentor:

    Catholic League chief: Non-believers ‘die prematurely and are disproportionately insane’
    “Appearing on the Malzberg Show on Newsmax, Catholic League president Bill Donohue said non-believing “secularists” have inferior “mental health, physical health” which is why they die early and are disproportionately represented in “asylums.””
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/catholic-league-chief-non-believers-die-prematurely-and-are-disproportionately-insane/

    Just checking out Bill’s picture on this story, it looks like it wouldn’t hurt for him to mix in a salad every once in a while.

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