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    “Yes, they ARE members of an extremist cult. They are called Christians!”

    Continue to believe and propagate this cartoon character the left has invented and smugly looks down on and continue to lose.

    These dum dums now control:


    The Republicans have 24 state trifectas. Democrats have just 6.

    My advice would be to not go further left and to not go big with smugness and condescension if you want to be relevant again, but you’re in that bubble again and I don’t think you’ll listen…

    Andy Brown

    Republicans now have everything to lose. They only remain relevant if they deliver on drumpf’s promises without plunging the economy into recession. P(A)= 0


    PROUD2BACONSERVATIVE enjoys seeing 2 guys and 2 girls making out in public.

    Andy Brown

    Bacon is enjoying the moment but he knows what history has shown. Republicans have traditionally been poor stewards of the economy. Republicans lead the nation into recession far more frequently then Democrats do. That in combination with the fact that the economic cycle is past due for a downturn adds up to a big Danger! sign up ahead. Republicans lead us into wars and military actions more frequently then Democrats. The big tug of war between the GOP establishment and the next administration will make for great entertainment because they are not on the same page. Add to that the Democrat’s version of the Mitch McConjob ‘my number one priority is making sure president Obama’s a one-term president’ plus the volatility of drumpf equals the GOP being unable to keep control of or support from the coalition of voters without whom they can not hold on to power.


    “Want some examples of very smart people who stopped up their ears to any possibility that Trump would win because all they listened to was the liberal media and liberal friends and contacts to the exclusion of common sense coming from outside their bubble? They are replete on this board.”

    It is far from common sense. It is reactive sense and it comes purely from red states between the west coast and the northeast. For them, the electoral college turned in their favor. In this case the e.c. worked for them and that is fine, it is the law. But please don’t mistake an electoral vote as common sense this time. No sense at all especially with the general vote showing most wanted Clinton. Sour grapes? Nope. Reality? Yep.


    My belief that Trump was unlikely to win had nothing at all to do with the so called liberal media or a bubble. (projection, much?)

    You know that. You’re just being, yet again, deliberately offensive and obtuse.

    Trump and his own team didn’t believe they were going to win up to and including the day of the election.


    In fact, I’ve come to the conclusion that Trump got exactly the opposite of what he was hoping for, and what Hillary got instead: a popular win and electoral college loss.

    Look at the evidence. He tweets that he *should* have won the popular vote if not for “millions” of illegal votes. Now, why cast his own win in doubt like that? If millions truly voted illegally, many of them would have been Trump votes, and what if they were cast in WI, MI or PA? Why possibly de-legitimize his own win for the pyrrhic popular win?

    And the way he is assembling his cabinet – slapdash, without much apparent forethought or systemic regard. Trump clearly gave this little if any thought leading up to his win.

    Let’s face it. Trump wanted to “win”, but he didn’t really want to be president. He wants to be loved by everyone, but doesn’t want to be the person to do the hard work or make the hard decisions for America. And he certainly doesn’t want to give up one iota of his financial empire to serve the nation conflict-free as President. His electoral win is a surprise even to him, and now it’s something he will parlay into greater gains for himself. But he would have been just as happy – probably happier – if he would have drawn Hillary’s hand rather than his own.


    100% concur.

    He has no real interest in the work of the presidency.


    As someone who thrives on the adoration of others, I can see him looking at his future as president with dread. Instead of president of his own Trump fan club, he’s now president of everyone – and most of those people dislike him very much. And I don’t see much chance of his favorables getting much better.

    President Park of South Korea recently conceded that she would step down after months of 95%+ disapprovals and weekly protest marches numbering in the hundreds of thousands – because of cronyism and corruption. If Trump continues on the trajectory he’s on now, he will end up in the same boat relatively soon.

    Andy Brown

    He undoubtedly will be the one responsible for his own political demise. After all, he chose to run as a Republican when he is not one. He chose to run such an acerbic campaign and hurl insults in every direction. He fomented violence. He tapped into citizenry that has been angry at the system and to whom political correctness is a defect. He made some outlandish campaign promises that he’ll never be able to come through on.

    But he has nimrods like bacon and dork that will defend his every action whether or not it is a mistake no matter what the facts indicate.

    It’s going to be a long four years battling the newly empowered GOP whom are dead set about re-using a known defective economic model and drumpf isn’t going to do much to stop them.

    For the first time since the 1930s, the US has a president who views trade as a zero-sum game. Trump’s protectionist campaign rhetoric may not have been meant literally, but if he fails to deliver any of the trade curbs that he promised, Republicans will suffer a backlash from what is now their core voter constituency, voters in declining industries and regions.

    A second, more immediate, threat stems from enacting large tax cuts and boosting public spending in an economy already nearing full employment, which implies accelerating inflation, higher interest rates, or probably some combination of the two. Given the likelihood of additional trade protectionism and measures to remove immigrant workers, the increase in inflation and long-term interest rates could be quite dramatic. The impact on financial markets will be disruptive, regardless of whether the Fed aggressively tightens monetary policy to pre-empt rising prices or lets the economy “run hot” for a year or two, allowing inflation to accelerate.

    With the US economy growing faster than expected and long-term interest rates rising, excessive strengthening of the dollar is a third major risk. Even though the dollar is already overvalued, it could move into a self-reinforcing upward spiral, as it did in the early 1980s and late 1990s, owing to dollar debts accumulated in emerging markets by governments and companies tempted by near-zero interest rates.

    Fourth, the combination of a dollar squeeze and protectionism spells big trouble for developing countries, with the possible exception of some relatively closed economies such as Brazil, Russia, and India, whose development strategies are less reliant on free trade and foreign financing.

    Finally, the most dangerous consequence of Trump’s victory may be its contagion effect on Europe. Just as Britain’s referendum proved uncannily predictive of Trump’s win, Trump looks like a leading indicator of populist upheavals in Europe, which could trigger another euro crisis and threaten the breakup of the European Union. The next anti-establishment victories, according to opinion polls, will be in Italy’s constitutional referendum and Austria’s presidential election. Globalists can only hope that the polls again turn out to be wrong – but in the opposite direction.


    >They are still shell-shocked since the great burst.

    Ha! Not this one. Wrote it here too.

    Now we see if the lessons to be had are learned.

    Those losses, by the way, do not validate the majority of the shit we see coming from the GOP.

    If the left doesn’t get it, we will see a move to the right or centrist.


    I keep hearing “the next four years of Trump.” Don’t forget, there is a midterm in 2018, which provides an opportunity for a take back of at least part of Congress. Yes, I know there are only 9/33 Senate races that can flip to Dem, and that the House remains seized in GOP gerrymander hell until at least 2020, but we’ll have to see just how bad Trump fucks things up in the interim. Midterms traditionally swing against the party in power, so maybe…


    The conventional wisdom has been wrong about Trump every step of the way. The conventional wisdom says he’ll be a crappy president. Therefore I think the odds are good that he’s going to be a pleasant surprise.




    Odds are that Trump used up all his good luck on Nov. 8.

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