November 9, 2016 at 12:15 am #24654missing_kskdParticipant
This was an establishment referendum election.
Dems didn’t really understand that. Our process for selecting nominees needs to be improved.
But, here we are.
I’ll be around later, maybe tomorrow.
Night peeps. We should have ran Bernie.November 9, 2016 at 12:20 am #24656markfeltParticipant
#CalExit is trending on Twitter. The whole West Coast needs to succeed.November 9, 2016 at 12:35 am #24660Alfredo_TParticipant
Earlier tonight, I heard that as Trump’s likelihood of winning was increasing, the value of the Mexican Peso and US securities markets were declining. I am wondering how far things will go before we hit bottom.
I had been seeing this election as a plebiscite, but I think that I might have arrived at that conclusion in a slightly different way. I saw only one candidate who had experience working in the federal government. The other candidate brought no governmental experience whatsoever (and some of this candidate’s supporters saw that as a strength). A third candidate brought state government experience but no experience with national/international politics.November 9, 2016 at 12:50 am #24662proud2baconservativeSpectator
The mistake the Democrats made was in the coronation of Hillary. They didn’t let a fair process play out. There was a huge desire among the Democratic rank-and-file to nominate their own Trump, but the DNC suppressed that.
Joe Biden would have been a very formidable opponent to Trump and might have won. There might have been some others, but Hillary was the rightful heir to the throne…November 9, 2016 at 1:23 am #24666BrianlParticipant
I think Bernie would have done better – Hillary has obvious trust issues (as does Trump), and the American people chose to carry Trump’s bags instead of Hillary.
Bernie is brutally honest and squeaky clean. Trump’s one point of leverage on Hillary would have been stripped away.
I would like to say congratulations to F&B, Dork, Herb, etc. Like most everyone else in here, I didn’t see this coming, and to be honest I am scared shitless right now about the next few years, but it is what it is, and we got the President-Elect that we deserve.
It still stuns me that, in 2016, we would vote for such a blatant racist, bigoted, misogynistic, reprehensible skinflint. But, the people have spoken, and I do respect that, and the process.November 9, 2016 at 2:18 am #24670skepticalParticipant
On the upside, North Korea, and Iran are all but nuked. Oh wait, that’s a downside. I’m not sure since the mob spoke at the polls today.
I thought perhaps Turnip will have a major stumble and have to resign, but that’ll bring in Pence.
Still a chance he’ll take off that orange mask and say ‘just kidding, I’m still a Democrat!’November 9, 2016 at 2:42 am #24671BrianlParticipant
Sleep, the problem is that we could end up “nuked”.
I have seen absolutely zero, zilch, nada, nothing from Trump to suggest that he has any desire or capability for diplomacy. He has made a career of screwing the “little guy”, in fact forcing multiple contractors and businesses into bankruptcy, because he doesn’t pay in earnest for services rendered. He has made it clear that he wants us out of NATO, and that he has a seemingly endless hard-on for Putin and how Russia does things.
I sure as hell hope I’m wrong, for the sake of not only the United States, but the entire planet.November 9, 2016 at 4:03 am #24675Dan PackardKeymaster
Donald Trump’s Revolt
NY Times Editorial, NOV. 9, 2016
President Donald Trump. Three words that were
unthinkable to tens of millions of Americans — and
much of the rest of the world — have now become
the future of the United States.
Having confounded Republican elites in the
primaries, Mr. Trump did the same to the Democrats
in the general election, repeating the judo move
of turning the weight of a complacent establishment against it. His victory is a humbling blow to the news media, the pollsters and the Clinton-dominated Democratic leadership.
The candidates appeared neck-in-neck in the
popular vote, but Mr. Trump bested Hillary Clinton
in the Electoral College.
So who is the man who will be the 45th president?
After a year and a half of erratic tweets and
rambling speeches, we can’t be certain. We don’t
know how Mr. Trump would carry out basic functions
of the executive. We don’t know what financial
conflicts he might have, since he never released
his tax returns, breaking with 40 years of
tradition in both parties. We don’t know if he has
the capacity to focus on any issue and arrive at a
rational conclusion. We don’t know if he has any
idea what it means to control the largest nuclear
arsenal in the world.
Here is what we do know: We know Mr. Trump is the
most unprepared president-elect in modern history.
We know that by words and actions, he has shown
himself to be temperamentally unfit to lead a
diverse nation of 320 million people. We know he
has threatened to prosecute and jail his political
opponents, and he has said he would curtail the
freedom of the press. We know he lies without
He has said he intends to cut taxes for the
wealthy and to withdraw the health care protection
of the Affordable Care Act from tens of millions
of Americans. He has insulted women and threatened
Muslims and immigrants, and he has recruited as
his allies a dark combination of racists, white
supremacists and anti-Semites. Given the
importance of the alt-right to Mr. Trump’s rise,
it is perhaps time to drop the “alt.” David Duke
celebrated Mr. Trump’s victory on Tuesday night,
tweeting, “It’s time to TAKE AMERICA BACK!!!”
When Mr. Trump has looked beyond our borders, he
has said that he would tear up the agreement to
prevent Iran from building nuclear arms and that
he would do away with the North American Free
Trade Agreement. He has said that he would
repudiate last December’s Paris agreement on
climate change, thereby abandoning America’s
leadership role in addressing the biggest
long-term threat to humanity. He has also
threatened to abandon NATO allies and start a
trade war with China.
We know that, with Republicans controlling both
houses of Congress, Mr. Trump would be able to
restore a right-wing majority by filling the
Supreme Court seat that Republican senators have
held hostage for nine months.
Republicans will soon control every branch of the
federal government, in addition to a majority of
governorships and statehouses. There is no obvious
check on Mr. Trump’s vengeful impulses. Other
Republican leaders, including his running mate,
Mike Pence, have largely made excuses for his most
By challenging every norm of American politics,
Mr. Trump upended first the Republican Party and
now the Democratic Party, which attempted a
Clinton restoration at a moment when the nation
was impatient to escape the status quo. Misogyny
and racism played their part in his rise, but so
did a fierce and even heedless desire for change.
That change has now placed the United States on a
precipice.November 9, 2016 at 4:17 am #24676Dan PackardKeymaster
And in the spirit of presenting a contrasting opinion
From Arthur Taylor, Hyde Park, UT
The Times has proven itself to be arrogant beyond belief with this editorial. You mock over half the nation. You belittle our hopes and dreams and expect us to accept your elitist rule without complaint. As a newspaper you are utterly deaf to the realities that lie outside your fair city. Despicable, the lot of you.
I can’t tell you how wonderful it was to watch Hillary’s defeat. Rarely have I ever taken joy in another’s failure, but in this instance – and in conjunction with your own – it was joyous.
In spite of your wailing, today the people have a leader who is free from the taint of corruption and is working on behalf of everyday Americans to rebuild what the globalists, the one percenters, the establishment and all their minions have transferred away from us. Today, the bait and switch is over.
Thank you Matt Drudge. Thank you Julian Assange. And thank you Donald Trump. Your bravery is beyond compare.November 9, 2016 at 5:44 am #24677Craig_AdamsParticipant
Dan: THANK YOU for posting those! Two interesting perspectives in deed!November 9, 2016 at 6:11 am #24679Charlie BuschParticipant
It is obvious we are capable of overlooking personal ethical and moral values for the sake of change. So be it. We go with the majority. Personally, I always felt the Bern. It is academic at this point. I may reside in California (we passed recreational pot…..Yeah), but I will always be an Oregonian. I miss you. I also got elected to the local Healthcare District B.O.D. in Kern County. (Yeah Pt. 2)
I’m going back to figuring out the presidential hairdo. It continues to be a mystery. Another sure thing, the next four years are going to be “comic rich”.November 9, 2016 at 8:12 am #24680LangstonParticipant
I suggest a national day of prayer where we can all pray that Trump shapes up before his inauguration.November 9, 2016 at 9:04 am #24681bookemdonoParticipant
Waiting to see which Trump will make it to the White House. The seemingly sane one of the years gone by where he talked of the economy doing better under democrat rule and Hillary being a successful secretary of state and would make a good president or the angry, racist, xenophobe of the campaign. He’s got a tough road ahead because if he doesn’t live up to his angry rants along the campaign trail there’s gonna be some disenchanted white rural American males in the country.November 9, 2016 at 9:15 am #24682LangstonParticipant
We realize that as President Obama leaves, orange is the new black.November 9, 2016 at 9:17 am #24683NotalentParticipant
I’m SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you, at how wrong you all were/are.
The good news is that corrupt machine politics took a good hit last night.
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