February 22, 2018 at 1:59 pm #35076AmusParticipant
Also with some linkages to the Civil War, with what passes for “Christian Conservatism” being basically Southern Baptist.February 22, 2018 at 5:54 pm #35080paulwalkerParticipant
I hear those who dismiss Graham because of his bigoted views, especially toward Gays.
That being said, it was a different era. I would much prefer a statesman like Billy Graham than those who came after. I will forgive him for some short-sided views that he likely would take back.
He had many a President’s ear. That is fact. He also was very skilled in his presentation as many non-religious commercial tv stations donated time for his sermons back in the day.
I don’t usually agree with Broadway, but why all the hate? This man was principled, whether or not you agreed with him or not. I believe being human also means accepting others even if we disagree. I don’t personally agree with BG, but I give him credit for being perhaps the most successful Christian orator of our times.February 22, 2018 at 6:43 pm #35081LangstonParticipant
It’s a believer vs non-believer thing. The non-believers hate believers regardless of political stripe. This is a constant battle which which can occur within a party(see Democratic Underground). Very divisive.February 22, 2018 at 6:55 pm #35082AmusParticipant
My ire isn’t particularly directed towards Billy Graham. He was a product of his time, and was what he was.
His son Franklin on the other hand is one of those you spoke of who came after. In his case, literally.February 22, 2018 at 8:20 pm #35095VitalogyParticipant
The fact that it was a “different era” doesn’t excuse his stances. Other people of that “different era” knew he was nothing more than a scam artist who lined his pockets.
Franklin on the other hand is nothing more than a spoiled son who is using his position, purely genetic relations, to further line his pockets.
Fuck’em both.February 22, 2018 at 8:29 pm #35098cbaravelliSpectator
Bulgar troll not worth the time, space or oxygen.February 24, 2018 at 3:44 pm #35138BroadwayParticipant
Someday you will read or hear that Billy Graham is dead. Don’t you believe a word of it. I shall be more alive than I am now. I will just have changed my address. I will have gone into the presence of God.
–Billy GrahamFebruary 24, 2018 at 5:46 pm #35144skepticalParticipant
God is giving Billy a stern butt whipping before sending the huckster to Hell’s caustic acid shower. There’s no way one dies with $25 mil earned-in-jesus’s-name in their pocket and gets away with it in Heaven.February 24, 2018 at 6:15 pm #35145VitalogyParticipant
Billy is dead just like every other dead person.February 24, 2018 at 9:12 pm #35148BroadwayParticipant
February 24, 2018 at 10:15 pm #35149Chris_TaylorParticipant
I wasn’t going to comment on this thread, but hey, what’s Dan’s bandwidth for anyway? Oh, and, I’m gonna hijack it.
One of the really good pastors of the 20th and early 21st centuries, whose humility, graciousness, good-heartedness, transparency and kindness, were often the source for comedic routines, was Fred Rogers. If I could in anyway emulate anyone outside of Jesus, Fred, would be my pick.
Now back to the sword fight.February 26, 2018 at 10:50 am #35167Alfredo_TParticipant
It’s true! Mr. Rogers was a pastor.February 26, 2018 at 11:39 am #35168skepticalParticipant
And didn’t die with $25 million in con money in his pocket. He gets to sit at the table with Jesus.February 26, 2018 at 11:45 am #35169jr_techParticipant
Yep, a pauper with only 3 million net worth.February 26, 2018 at 11:47 am #35170edselehrParticipant
Hey, cardigans ain’t cheap.
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