Latest scandal for the catholic cult: thousands of victims sexually abused.

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    Vitalogy
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    missing_kskd
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    Chris_taylor
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    Father Richard Rohr responds:

    Fr. Richard’s statement on the new revelations of priestly abuse and coverup:

    This moral catastrophe first of all demands public and sincere lamentation from every segment of the Body of Christ, and only then can the deep healing begin. It also demands public ownership, repentance and reform of our very immature teaching in regard to sexuality in general, male power issues in particular, and our “enforced” understanding of celibacy, which will predictably produce this kind of result.

    Our own Catholic theology says that celibacy is a “charism” which means a free and empowered gift. In my experience, only someone who has an alive and warm inner experience of God is capable of celibacy at all.

    It is a contradiction in terms for the Catholic Church to think it can mandate a free gift, which of course, has no precedent in Jesus. It is clearly not necessary for ministry, and is often a liability, creating an aura of spiritual superiority when the exact opposite is often the case.

    I personally believe the actual charism of male celibacy that produces both happy and healthy men by the second half of life, is quite rare. (Rohr also states you can disagree with him on that statement)

    Until the Catholic church disconnects celibacy from ministry, I think we will continue to have ordained men, who are both unhappy, unhealthy, and a scandal to the Body of Christ. (Lest anyone think incorrectly, I am not saying that celibacy causes pedophilia, but I am saying that the idealized culture of celibacy allowed it to hide there for a long time.)

    This shadowy material will keep emerging unless we own it and hold it fully accountable. In the meantime, let’s all pray and try to live more authentic sexual and spiritual lives ourselves.

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    Vitalogy
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    I think celibacy has a lot to do with the problem.

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    Chris_taylor
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    I agree with you, Vit.

    #39033

    Broadway
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    >>let’s all pray and try to live more authentic sexual and spiritual lives ourselves
    Amen…we had a long discussion over the weekend re: this story with our long time devout Catholic friend and she agrees that her religion needs change/reform beginning with the celibacy theology.

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    lastday
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    Celibacy is the main problem. Followed by no female priests. These core church doctrines have to change. They’re illogical.

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    Alfredo_T
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    I wonder whether celibate organizations tend to draw people who feel sexual proclivities that they believe to be wrong.

    In a slightly unrelated note, I recently saw a trailer for an upcoming film about a religious reform school for young gay men. This was an environment where a bunch of people who felt attraction for members of the same sex were forced to live together, yet they were told that they shouldn’t have these feeling. What could possibly go wrong? The shocker is that this film is set in just the recent past, not 40 or 50 years ago.

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