Latest Health Care bill Revisions: Medicaid cuts remain, bill is doomed to fail

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  • #30567

    Andy Brown
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    Senate Republicans are preparing to unveil a revised health care bill that aims to attract support from wary Republicans, but early indications suggest the proposed changes do little to address concerns about the current deep cuts to Medicaid, possibly putting the bill’s path to passage in peril.

    Numerous changes have been made to the new version of the Better Care Reconciliation Act to appease both conservative and moderate Republicans as leadership searches for the 50 votes they need to pass it. In a blow to the more moderate faction, it appears the more than $700 billion worth of cuts to Medicaid will still be part of the measure, according to numerous senators describing what leadership has told them about the bill.

    “My understanding is that remains the same,” Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Penn., a proponent of the Medicaid cuts, of the Medicaid portion of the bill.

    Things could still change as the bill’s contents are yet final and the new text is expected to be released Thursday. Still, the prospects of creating a more generous Medicaid program appear to be dim. Republican leaders have used their effort to alter the Obama-era Affordable Care Act as an opportunity to reform the entitlement program for the low-income, the disabled and the elderly.

    Some conservatives, including Toomey, have championed the cuts and have threatened to oppose the measure if Medicaid cuts are restored. Additionally, The White House, led by Vice President Mike Pence, supports how the program is laid out in the original BCRA.

    Other senators have said that the cuts to Medicaid are too drastic to support the bill, including Sens. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, and Shelley Moore Capito, R-W.Va., Dean Heller, R-Nev., Susan Collins, R-Maine and Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska.

    Sen. Capito said that leadership hasn’t given her assurances that her Medicaid concerns would be addressed. She said that leaders are telling them that they’re “trying to get to the sweet spot of 50 people and (they are) expressing difficulties that obviously we know are there.”

    To accommodate people who might lose their Medicaid coverage, Republicans have added $70 billion to a stabilization fund to help lower-income people pay for medical costs, also known as cost-sharing reductions. Moderates will have to determine if that’s enough for them to support the measure.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/changes-senate-health-care-bill-coming-medicaid-cuts-remain-n782226?cid=public-rss_20170713

    #30568

    paulwalker
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    DOA. And not even among issues that are being covered today. The GOP may be trying to pass this under the cover of the White House crisis. Another example of a party’s general ill-health.

    • This reply was modified 4 months, 1 week ago by  paulwalker.
    #30580

    Andy Brown
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    Already two Senators have said they will vote against even opening up discussions about the revised bill, one moderate and one super-con. One more and it’s done.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CONGRESS_HEALTH_OVERHAUL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

    #30607

    Andy Brown
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    The Republicans think so much of their latest health care proposal they have exempted themselves from it.

    Senate budget rules are giving opponents of the rollback of the 2010 health care law an easy way to attack Republicans for hypocrisy.

    The Senate GOP may not really want to immunize their own member and staff health plans from their health care policy changes, but because they are seeking to bring their bill to the floor under the expedited budget reconciliation process, they have little choice.

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/republicans-exempted-insurance-obamacare-rollback

    #30626

    paulwalker
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    Everything will be slowed down by McCain’s recent health issues.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/15/mccain-out-surgery-obamacare-repeal-240595

    This bill is bad, as all others have been. A complete failure from the GOP. The only way the bill will pass is to maintain medicaid expansion, pure and simple. Until this happens, it WON’T happen.

    #30627

    edust1958
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    Isn’t this entire “sausage making effort” by the Republicans indicative of how unfortunately diverse the political spectrum is within the Republican party. The moderate Republicans are almost diametrically opposite to the far right Republicans. If the middle of the Republican Party broke rank and joined up with the similar minded Democrats, would there be enough votes in the Senate to entertain legislation that would address some of the broken pieces of the Affordable Care Act?

    Maybe a less “whipped” Congress would result in better public policy..

    #30655

    Vitalogy
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    Officially dead.

    #30658

    paulwalker
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    Yes, as predicted, it is dead.

    4 senators now oppose health care bill.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/17/politics/health-care-motion-to-proceed-jerry-moran-mike-lee/index.html

    McCain can now take his time to recover from his surgery. He won’t be needed afterall.

    What a complete failure among the GOP, but mainly due to an extremely weak President.

    #30660

    Vitalogy
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    Just to recap, the GOP has all 3 branches in their favor and can’t pass a thing. Pathetic.

    #30662

    Andrew
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    As I said on an earlier thread: those two Dem Senate pick-ups in 2016 look huge now.

    #30665

    LurkingGrendel
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    Who knew that health care was difficult?

    El-Oh-EL

    #30666

    Brianl
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    Oh, but it gets better:

    McConnell’s next answer? Repeal Obamacare without any replacement. And then, the replacement piece would be addressed in two years time.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mcconnell-calls-obamacare-repeal-vote-replacement-plan-fails/story?id=48690900

    The CBO estimates that 30-35 million Americans would lose their health coverage if Obamacare gets repealed.

    This would be absolute political suicide for the Republican Party, and IMO, guarantee them getting their asses handed to them on a platter come November of 2018z

    #30669

    LurkingGrendel
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    That stupid idea is now officially dead as well. Three GOP Senators already said thanks, no thanks.

    #30671

    Andrew
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    One of the few predictions I’ve made since the election was that the GOP might just let Obamacare die. They certainly have the power to do so, without passing new laws. Trump has some authority in the executive branch (e.g. not enforcing the mandate). From Trump’s comments, it sounds like that’s the direction he wants to go.

    Obamacare really does need to be fixed. Let’s hope in 2021 we might finally be able to do that and that not too many people must suffer in the meantime.

    #30673

    LurkingGrendel
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    “Letting it die” is not a politically viable strategy.

    Actively working to sabotage a health care law that directly helps millions of Americans is unbelievably callous and immoral and dishonest and the very definition of bad governance, and is also guaranteed to politically blow up in their fucking faces should they be stupid enough to try it. (Spoiler: Trump is. The GOP Congress is not.)

    Contrary to the years of lying about the matter, while the ACA is far from perfect, it’s not the disaster it’s critics have claimed it is. Not remotely. That’s one of the major reasons the GOP has had an almost impossible time dismantling it. I.e. It actually does alot of things really well. People, many (many) of them Republican voters are finding out it’s actually been pretty good to them.

    There’s virtually no-one I’ve heard from/read, etc. on the Democratic side that’s been at all adverse to the idea of fixing/improving elements of the ACA. Stating otherwise is simply not true. On the other hand, the GOP refuses to even confront reality. They’ve refused to for years; purely for partisan gain.

    Donald Trump is too stupid to understand any of this, but alot of the GOP leadership certainly does.

    If/when the GOP actually wanted to work with the Democrats to improve the ACA, they’d find a lot of willing partners.

    They’ll continue to find 0.0% of Democrats that are going to support their trying to destroy or even undermine the law. Because, duh.

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