June 30, 2016 at 5:15 am #21187Craig_AdamsParticipant
This from All Access:
Portland, OR AM Buys FM Translator
CAMERON CRAVEY is selling K236CA/TACOMA, WA to CRAWFORD’s KPHP RADIO, INC. for $27,500. The buyer plans to move the translator to rebroadcast Religion KKPZ-A (1330 AM THE TRUTH)/PORTLAND.June 30, 2016 at 8:42 am #21190W7PATParticipant
So are they going to move the translator to Portland? If so, what frequency is available?June 30, 2016 at 9:10 am #21191jay_zieParticipant
Are there any channels available in PDX for this translator?June 30, 2016 at 12:32 pm #21198Alfredo_TParticipant
96.7, 101.5, and possibly 98.3 are some that come to my mind. 101.5 would put them next to KXL, which might have some strategic advantage.June 30, 2016 at 2:20 pm #21201
They can’t move a translator that far. NFW.
Also, there are no channels in the Portland metro for translators. How soon you guys forget, in order to make room for LPFM’s around the country thousands of translator applications were tossed out.
96.7 is unavailable. Two LPFM CP’s on that channel.
98.3 is unavailable. One LPFM CP on that channel.
101.5 is unavailable. Two LPFM CP’s on that channel.June 30, 2016 at 2:37 pm #21203
In addition, non-fill-in translators relaying commercial FM stations must receive the signal off the air and non-fill-in noncommercial educational translators on Channels 221 through 300 are prohibited from any alternative methods of signal delivery as well, including programming feeds by satellite. That means the programming must be obtained off air. My guess is that whatever b.s. programming they have on 1330 is also being broadcast in that area by a station that they don’t own but wish to rebroadcast.June 30, 2016 at 2:47 pm #21205
Could it be rebroadcast off their AM HD channel?June 30, 2016 at 3:21 pm #21209
AM broadcast stations are allowed to use currently authorized FM translator stations (i.e., those now licensed or authorized in construction permits that have not expired) to rebroadcast their AM signals, provided that no portion of the 60 dBu contour of any such FM translator station extends beyond the smaller of: (a) a 25-mile radius from the AM transmitter site; or (b) the 2 mV/m daytime contour of the AM station.
There is no way that a station in Portland can rebroadcast its signal in Tacoma unless the originating station is non comm and the translator is non commercial AND in the reserved band (below 92.1).
Fill in translators can be fed by any terrestrial means, so the AM HD signal could be used but it can also be fed via microwave, internet or private line.
So, Broadway, what exactly do you mean? An AM stations HD signal can be used if the translator meets the above requirements. Again, translators cannot be used to extend the contour of an AM station, and must be wholly contained within the 2 mV/m daytime contour and the 25-mile radius. There has been some movement to loosen that up a little, but Tacoma? Uh uh.June 30, 2016 at 6:54 pm #21215
>> Broadway, what exactly do you mean?
Once they do find a local Pdx freq if they can, can they feed via their HD feed…you answered my question…but I agree…the Crawford Engineers are going to be scratching their heads on this move-in.June 30, 2016 at 7:19 pm #21216jr_techParticipant
BW… but what would be the benefit of doing that?June 30, 2016 at 7:52 pm #21217
Has anyone heard of an AM station that is broadcasting in HD feeding their FM translator via their HD audio to FM? Of course would save any telco-isp charges.July 1, 2016 at 1:03 am #21230semoochieParticipant
I haven’t been able to hear KKPZ-HD in years beyond about a half second and only sporadically. Before that, it was fairly consistent, as AM-HD goes. I keep meaning to drive up to the tower, to see if it makes any difference.July 1, 2016 at 8:24 am #21240
From Tom Taylor NOW morning write-up…
Portland, Oregon’s “1330 the Truth” KKPZ locates a translator companion up in Tacoma, so the construction permit will be making the 150-mile trek to the Rose City. Its AM best friend for at least the next four years will be Crawford’s Christian teaching KKPZ. It’s a Class B facility, so there will be a followup filing when the Class A/B translator filing window opens July 29. For now we know that seller Cameron Cravey won’t be building it in Portland at 95.1, as originally planned. No indication where K236CA will surface in Portland. This is Texas-based Cameron Cravey’s third translator sale this year, counting move-ins in Arkansas (April 27 NOW) and Louisiana (Wednesday’s NOW). Price for the Oregon-bound Tacoma CP – $27,500.July 1, 2016 at 11:29 am #21246jr_techParticipant
“I haven’t been able to hear KKPZ-HD in years beyond about a half second and only sporadically. Before that, it was fairly consistent, as AM-HD goes”
Same story here in Hillsboro… I even connected my Sony F1HD tuner to an outdoor 4.5 ft loop and was able to get pad info “KKPZ/The Truth” but only very sporadic, brief lock in of program material. When it did lock in it sounded terrible. Just after they initiated HD transmissions, the HD was fairly solid during the daytime using just a 9 inch indoor loop. Even then it sounded terrible!July 1, 2016 at 1:02 pm #21248semoochieParticipant
I would say I’m well within the 25mv/m contour and still can’t get it!
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