KEX and KUIK

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  • #15417

    892R
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    This is actually two questions in the form of one. Why does Brad Ford sound better on KUIK than KEX. Heard him do a story on KUIK News, locking out with his name and “KUIK NEWS”. And the audio quality on 1360 was much better than the digital distortion I heard on his KEX newscast a few minutes later. I’m hearing that distortion most all the time on KEX. What gives? (BTW Brad began his commercial radio career on KUIK back in the late 80s)

    #15431

    semoochie
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    Did KEX ever remove the 5KHz limit from its HD days? That could certainly have something to do with it.

    #15457

    892R
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    The other part of the question is why is Brad doing news stories for KUIK?

    And is anyone else experiencing the harsh quality of KEX Audio? I get it on my car radios and the Sangean receiver in my office.

    #15680

    JBM
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    That is a good question! Ron Callan appears on Rip City Radio 620, KPAM, and he did play-by-play for the Portland Thunder on 750/102.9 The Game; if my understanding is correct, after he was laid-off as a full-time employee, he essentially became a freelancer or contractor, so while he still appears as the KPAM “Sports Insider” and fills in for Tim Hohl in the mornings, he is essentially free to do other things. Brad Ford is another matter; maybe KUIK is paying KEX to get some local news updates, or perhaps his contract with KEX changed. Anyone know what’s really going on?

    #15797

    Dxer1969
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    Yep, it is strange that Brad Ford, the new director at KEX would be helping out the 2nd local morning show with their newcasts. But wait! Isn’t KEX going to cancel their morning show soon? Maybe Brad wanted to cover his bases. Better KUIK then nothing.

    #15806

    stevewa
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    Well, there is history there.

    #15808

    Alfredo_T
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    KEX returned to ~10 kHz audio bandwidth years ago, when they discontinued broadcasting IBOC. I recall that circa 2005, Clear Channel did implement a corporate policy of restricting analog audio bandwidth to 5 kHz at its AM stations, regardless of whether IBOC was being broadcast or not. Since then, the policy has either been withdrawn, or it has been forgotten.

    #15854

    Dxer1969
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    Perhaps it is because 620/1190 share the same tower system. I work out at 181st between 1 84 and Sandy Blvd. 1080/910 also share towers. And 910 sounded like crap, especially after nighttime. Liked it better when each station had its own tower system! They just sounded better and were more powerful. Might be nothing. Just my observations. But at least, 910 doesn’t have that whine anymore. When 910 was KISN back before 9/1/76,it always had that whine. Even during the day. At night though, I lost the signal halfway thru Oregon City. And then, all I could hear was the whine. And now, KEX has this hum. Even worse then that whine was. Annoying!

    #15859

    jimbo
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    That “whine” on the old KISN @910 had nothing to do with tower arrangements. Radios back then had IF frequency or 455 kHz. Twice that is 910 and that is why you had that whistle/whine.

    #15877

    Alfredo_T
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    I think that KUIK may still be using an analog microwave STL. Their audio processing is likely very different from what the iHeart stations are using.

    I made some observations about the 620/1190 audio in the “AM Radio” thread a few hours ago. After writing those comments, I flipped to KUIK. At the time, KUIK was running a syndicated show, and there were no local spots. Thus, I could not tell with certainty whether the artifacts that I heard in KUIK’s audio were present in the program source. In the past, I have noted that the audio that comes from KUIK’s studios is artifact and distortion-free, and that it is only some of the syndicated shows that have ratty audio.

    #15881

    Andy Brown
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    Some of those syndicated via satellite delivery programs are highly compressed so as to fit more streams in the uplink and maximize data within the transponder bandwidth. Especially talk programming.

    #15886

    Dxer1969
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    @andy, Alfredo & Jumbo. Thanks for the explanations. Much appreciated!

    #15888

    jr_tech
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    “I think that KUIK may still be using an analog microwave STL.”

    Just checked…950.50 seems to still be in operation. It is quite weak here today, likely due to wet trees and wet antenna.

    #15892

    DarkStar
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    I really don’t see them switching out that analog STL anytime soon either. It still has the same whine on it too that’s existed for the last 10+ years. 🙂

    #15894

    Chico
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    Back when Seattle’s KIXI was on 910, they actually occasionally made fun of the 910 whine by calling it the “KIXI Whistle” on the air. If you can’t beat ’em….

    BTW, the “IXI” in the calls was a poor man’s version of 91 in roman numerals. I know KATU of course, but are/were there any other calls in the Portland market that made a play on the frequency? I am drawing a blank.

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