How much we have forgotten!

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  • #13198
    Deane Johnson
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    When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over a health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn’t even get a vote in a democratic controlled congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million in cost for studies, promotion, and other efforts.

    Then President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood – both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. Next she chose Janet Reno – husband Bill described her selection as “my worst mistake.” Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.

    Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovered of Ms. Guanier’s radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration.

    Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department. Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

    Many younger voters will have no knowledge of “Travelgate.” Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson – and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours.

    Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House. Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.

    Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the “bimbo eruption” and scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle was:

    She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones.

    She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr’s investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.

    Hillary’s devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for ‘lying under oath’ to a grand jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.

    Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, “I do not recall,” “I have no recollection,” and “I don’t know” a total of 56 times while under oath.

    After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork that she had stolen.

    What a swell party – ready for another four or eight year of this type low-life mess?

    Now we are exposed to the destruction of possibly incriminating emails while Hillary was Secretary of State and the “pay to play” schemes of the Clinton Foundation – we have no idea what shoe will fall next. But to her loyal fans – “what difference does it make?”

    #13199
    edselehr
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    Okay Deane – I know who *not* to vote for now.

    So tell me, who do you think I should vote for?

    #13201
    Deane Johnson
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    That’s an easy one. Donald Trump. We need someone to kick ass and get things moving, even if they make a few mistakes in the process.

    If it has to be a Democrat, I would prefer Biden.

    #13203
    missing_kskd
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    Trump?

    Hahahahahaha!

    Go Bernie!

    #13205
    missing_kskd
    Participant

    And if we are going to actually remember the past –the recent past, chapter and verse, are we going to remember all of it, not just the parts we like?

    #13211
    Vitalogy
    Participant

    How is Donald Trump going to kick ass?

    And don’t get me wrong, I want Trump to stick around. He will ultimately piss off so many people, his ego will run as a 3rd candidate and peel off enough votes to more than make sure Hillary is elected.

    Besides, remember all the hand wringing from the right about Obama? He’s going to tank the economy, ruin the market, increase unemployment, etc?

    I’m looking forward to continuing what the last 8 years has provided.

    #13216
    Deane Johnson
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    “I’m looking forward to continuing what the last 8 years has provided.”

    I’m not surprised.

    #13217
    Vitalogy
    Participant

    Face it, you are too. Why in the world would you want to go back to 2008? Isn’t it pretty clear when looking back to 1992, you can see how much better Democrats are than Republicans when it comes to running the White House.

    #13218
    Deane Johnson
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    I don’t know what you may have paid for those rose colored glasses, but you’re sure getting your money’s worth with them.

    #13221
    Vitalogy
    Participant

    You bet I’m getting my money’s worth. Income up, retirement accounts up, savings accounts up, new cars and no car loans, both houses up in value. And up considerabley I must add. We’ve never been better off. Thanks Obama!

    #13223
    Amus
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    Would you prefer the economy as it was on January 20, 2009 over the economy as it is today?

    Also,

    Bin Ladin.

    #13230
    paulwalker
    Participant

    Biden is the wildcard here. If he decides to run then all bets are off for both parties. Something tells me he will, just a gut feeling.

    The stories I am hearing are is number one, Obama is a bigger fan of Biden than Clinton. Number two, Biden is being influenced heavily by the death of his son, who reportedly told him to run.

    Of course, the gaffes will come up, but in a race with Trump, not sure it would really matter.

    #13231
    missing_kskd
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    Hell no.

    We could use better and do some building and repairing for stimulus, but times are pretty good.

    Meanwhile, the Stupid Party appears to be headed into another shutdown, due to their general inability to govern.

    That could botch things going into an election year. I’ll bet most people figure out who. Not both sides here.

    We have one party who freaks out and shuts down, and one party that does not.

    #13233
    missing_kskd
    Participant

    Biden… yeah, maybe.

    Maybe we get Bernie Biden. I’ll take it easily.

    #13235
    paulwalker
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    Maybe, but nobody can predict the outcome at this point. Will be an interesting one to watch.

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