December 6, 2016 at 12:07 pm #25377VitalogyParticipant
The good news for Donald Trump and the Republican Party come January 20: They will control both the White House and Congress. But here’s the potential bad news: They will have a tough act to follow, especially when looking at these key statistics over the last eight years of Barack Obama’s presidency (with one more month to go). The “then” figure is the best-available number for when Obama first took office in 2009. And the “now” is the most recent figure.
It’s hard to argue against those stats.December 6, 2016 at 5:26 pm #25385LurkingGrendelParticipant
The GOP has been in abject denial of that reality for the entirety of Obama’s presidency.
The second Trump takes office, expect 100% of his supporters to re-write history so that the positive economic data is now “his” and had nothing at all to do with President Obama.
Facts do not matter to tens of millions of Americans.December 7, 2016 at 10:42 am #25406proud2baconservativeSpectator
He’s already winning even as president-elect.
Besides that ANYBODY can preside over a “recovery” of an economy that is inherited after a bust.December 7, 2016 at 11:14 am #25408LurkingGrendelParticipant
Again, belief devoid of facts.December 7, 2016 at 11:16 am #25409edselehrParticipant
Tell that to Hoover. He had three years to lead a recovery after the ’29 crash, and pretty much everything he did just made it worse.
Obama’s policies helped, and have continued to help. Trying to deny him the credit he deserves is denying reality. But conservatives are good at that.December 7, 2016 at 1:09 pm #25420Andy BrownParticipant
It’s pointless to argue with bacon. He doesn’t believe anything he posts. He just is soliciting your comments to beat off with in front of his monitor.December 7, 2016 at 2:11 pm #25423edselehrParticipant
And thanks for that image Andy. ew.December 7, 2016 at 3:11 pm #25424proud2baconservativeSpectator
“Obama’s policies helped, and have continued to help. Trying to deny him the credit he deserves is denying reality. But conservatives are good at that.”
Economies rebound on their own. The only thing he did was slow down recovery with his “stimulus” which confiscated resources from the successful parts of the economy and redistributed them to the failures (and his buddies).
Besides that, what is there to “credit”? You have a government job so you are exempt from famine and hard times. You don’t experience the economic challenges of those in the private sector, so what looks rosy to you might not be the case with many others not so privileged.December 7, 2016 at 3:56 pm #25425Andy BrownParticipant
Not so fast bacon breath.
Clinton’s infrastructure plan was to spend $275 billion in her first 100 days. drumpf promised to at least double that for the purposes of providing what amounts to shovel ready jobs for people.
The Obama stimulus plan carried an estimated price tag of $831B spread out over a ten year period, which was ostensibly for projects exactly like the ones Trump described. You can’t possibly know if an additional $550B is going to suddenly fix all the problems Trump identifies except that he has alluded that he’s going to personally oversee every construction project funded by his massive deficit spending to make sure there are not cost overruns? Yeah, right.
So your analysis is worthless, your lame attempt to make a point has failed, your understanding of economics is high school level and your contribution here is so worthless it can’t even be parsed or analyzed.
Anyone really paying attention knows that the GOP didn’t want to raise the debt limit, ever. It seems that the real fight here is between drumpf and the Republicans.
Are you really this dumb, bacon?December 7, 2016 at 6:18 pm #25429VitalogyParticipant
Take a look at the yield on the 10 year Treasury. Thanks to Trump, everyone is paying more to borrow money, from Joe the Plumber to the US govt.
When the US has to offer a higher yield to attract investors, it’s a warning sign of bad things to come. Like Trumpflation.
Not to mention, look at the increase in oil. A double whammy for those Rust Belt fucks that voted Trump. Enjoy your higher costs!
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