December 31, 2014 at 11:29 am #5191
If he’s “pro birth control” then he’s not a devout Catholic.
And there most definitely are black Catholics.December 31, 2014 at 1:06 pm #5195missing_kskdParticipant
You know, I don’t bother learning about the details much. If he says he’s devout, than he is.
See how that works?December 31, 2014 at 3:08 pm #5198Deane JohnsonParticipant
There’s an error in the title of this thread. He doesn’t have any KKK connections.December 31, 2014 at 3:27 pm #5200
“If he’s “pro birth control” then he’s not a devout Catholic.”
Wrong. This was settled in another thread. Millions of “devout” Catholics refuse to follow this piece of church dogma.December 31, 2014 at 3:54 pm #5201jr_techParticipant
“And there most definitely are black Catholics”
Only about 4% in USA, compared to about 15% in the general population. Why do you suppose that is the case?December 31, 2014 at 4:15 pm #5204
F&B “If he’s “pro birth control” then he’s not a devout Catholic.”
That makes sense, since Evangelical Protestants have become more devoted to their religious beliefs over the last three decades and Catholics have become less attached to their faith, new research finds. About 56 percent of Evangelicals currently say they’re strongly affiliated with their religion, while only 35 percent of Catholics say the same. Priest sex abuse scandals in the Catholic Church could have shaken people’s trust in the institution, so that they still call themselves Catholic but distance themselves from the Church. Likewise, the demographics of Catholicism are changing. There are more Latino Catholics in America today than in the past, and Latinos may be less likely to strongly identify with the institution of the Church than white Catholics.December 31, 2014 at 4:43 pm #5206
No dux, nothing was “settled” except in your mind. No devout Catholic would support the use of or use contraception.December 31, 2014 at 5:29 pm #5207December 31, 2014 at 5:34 pm #5208missing_kskdParticipant
Like any religon, it is what the belivers say it is.December 31, 2014 at 9:16 pm #5211
Catholics for choice is not a bona fide catholic organization. By that name they out themselves as not being devout.
What about Catholics for adultery?
Happy New Year.December 31, 2014 at 10:36 pm #5217
“What about Catholics for adultery?”
That group, the divorced Catholics, constitute 21% of all Catholics. One in five. It’s actually one of the lowest divorce rates amongst denominations, but it’s nothing to brag about.
Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience.
25% of all Christian adults have had at least one divorce during their lifetime. Although recent years has seen a slight shrinkage in divorce rates (and a parallel decline in marriage in general and for those that do marry, they marry at an older age and are not virgins), the overall chance of a divorce over all data still puts it at near 50%.
You are a fraud, F&B. You write a good game, but the picture perfect devout Catholic you portrait in your posts is but a tiny percentage of all Catholics.
Spin on. No one here thinks you’re credible. Just like your days as fairandbalanced, Wrath of Con and libby, Jerry1949 is a poseur. Even the Pope has nothing nice to say about you and your ilk of ideologues. Clearly, Pope Francis isn’t fond of the extreme ideals of the Christian Right. He supports helping the poor. He believes in economic fairness. He denounces hatred of gay people. He thinks the war against abortion and birth control has gone too far.
Clearly Pope Francis has a much better vision of reality than you do, Vern. He’s right when he refers to your group of ideologues as having an illness. I’ve been claiming that about you since before you got thrown off this board the first time, second time, third time . . .
You need help.January 1, 2015 at 1:31 pm #5238
Il Papa sez:
“Abortion compounds the grief of many women who now carry with them deep physical and spiritual wounds after succumbing to the pressures of a secular culture which devalues God’s gift of sexuality and the right to life of the unborn,” the pope said.
“The rate of separation and divorce is high, even in many Christian families, and children frequently do not grow up in a stable home environment. We also observe with great concern, and can only deplore, an increase in violence against women and children.
“All these realities threaten the sanctity of marriage, the stability of life in the home and consequently the life of society as a whole.”
Only two weeks ago, the pope told members of Italy’s anti-abortion movement that human life was inviolable and abortion was an “unspeakable crime.”
“It must be therefore reiterated the strongest opposition to any direct attack on life, especially innocent and defenseless life, and the unborn child in the womb is the most concrete example of innocence,” he said at the time.
“Let us remember the words of the Second Vatican Council: From the moment of its conception, life must be guarded with the greatest care while abortion and infanticide are unspeakable crimes.”January 1, 2015 at 2:50 pm #5242
You are lost in an ozone of your own doing. Your posts aren’t even worth reading. Spin on.January 1, 2015 at 6:43 pm #5257
Notice that he wasn’t talking about contraception?
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