November 30, 2014 at 7:43 pm #3875jerry1949Spectator
I’ll happily discuss abortion and the difference between killing a helpless fetus and killing an aggressor in self defense if you like. Start another thread about it.November 30, 2014 at 7:46 pm #3876VitalogyParticipant
There’s not a need to start another thread. You (and your pathetic ilk) have proven time and time again that AT BEST, you’re selectively pro-life. I call it not really pro-life. Better yet, I call it hypocrisy at the highest level.
As for self defense, remember, the cop was armed and Michael Brown was unarmed.
The only defense we heard was from the cop, who was armed, and lived. The other party didn’t get to testify.November 30, 2014 at 7:50 pm #3878edselehrParticipant
The police are there to enforce the law and arrest/detain those suspected of breaking the law. The police officer should only draw his gun if he feels he or someone is in imminent danger, and should only discharge it if he feels that killing someone is the only way to stop death or harm to himself or someone else.
The police are NOT there to determine guilt and mete out punishment for perceived crimes. This is why I’m always confused when people use the crime he committed just before the incident as any kind of justification for the shooting. The only – ONLY – reason for Michael Brown to have been shot is if he was endangering the police officer’s life and killing Michael Brown was the only way to stop it. The robbery he committed has nothing to do with anything, except that it might have been the reason the interaction was initiated.November 30, 2014 at 8:32 pm #3881missing_kskdParticipant
Teh ignoracne runs strong…
Alleged felon. Instead of actually convicting him, an officer rendered judgement with a gun.
Yes, police have the right to ask people to do things.
The authoritarian doctrine says to escalate force for compliance.
The older protect and serve doctrine would not consider mere non compliance a justification for deadly force.
People are not required to obey unlawful requests. I won my court case on that, not complying with an unlawful request. I just got beat up out of anger, today, I could be shot for that very same incident.
When my black son is involved with police, here in Portland, the overall risk and tone of the event varies considerably from what my white one experiences.November 30, 2014 at 9:24 pm #3886BroadwayParticipant
>>The only – ONLY – reason for Michael Brown to have been shot is if he was endangering the police officer’s life
…and that’s what Police officers are trained to do…to kill the person endangering them…say self defense.November 30, 2014 at 9:28 pm #3888duxruleParticipant
“The only – ONLY – reason for Michael Brown to have been shot is if he was endangering the police officer’s life”
According to whom?November 30, 2014 at 10:03 pm #3894missing_kskdParticipant
Lots of shots fired at somebody 140 feet away? Brown died about that distance from the officer.
There is a strong case for the shooting to be one of anger, not self-defense.
We are very highly likely to see about that in civil court.December 1, 2014 at 11:37 am #3925BroadwayParticipant
Notes from a Facebook friend….
Truth is important. Really important.
If this guy is telling the truth then thousands of people around the nation are using this horrible situation as an excuse to take their hearts hate and anti government anger out on many good people. If this guy is lieing then so much destruction and anger is being caused to innocent people because of the hate and distrust it brought out of people hearts.
I am very thankful that someday a Just, Mericful, Dangerous and Loving God who knows all will bring Justice to all, knowing the truth about people’s hearts, motivations and who has wronged and who has been wronged, also showing mercy and grace to anyone who puts their faith and trust in Jesus Christs as Lord and Savior.
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