March 24, 2017 at 12:53 pm #28153LurkingGrendelParticipant
And, officially pulled by Ryan.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLMarch 24, 2017 at 1:07 pm #28154
Republican incompetence on the hoof and for all to see.March 24, 2017 at 1:22 pm #28155
The failure of the Republicans to pass their health don’t care bill is being blamed on Democrats by drumpf. Now that’s LOL.
Chalk up another drumpf failure that he will take no responsibility for to the list of:
A. drumpf failures (too many to list)
B. Republican hypocrisy (whom were never all on the same page when it got down to details).
C. bacon’s claims contrary to the real facts about conservative malfeasance when it comes down to practical matters
D. dork’s claims contrary to the real facts about how the GOP has blocked any efforts under Obama to make any changes to anything. This failure is all about Republicans being unable to lead the country.March 24, 2017 at 1:33 pm #28156
“After two months, here’s what we know: He’s not going to fix everything. He’s not going to drain the swamp. He’s not going to make America great again. He’s not going to unite all Americans. He’s not going to replace Obamacare with something “terrific.” He’s not going to bring back the manufacturing jobs or the America dream. He won’t make America respected around the world. He won’t make us safer.”
Robert ReichMarch 24, 2017 at 2:05 pm #28157skepticalParticipant
Heh. Seven years of repealing Obama care then this.March 24, 2017 at 3:28 pm #28158
drumpf is not mortally wounded, but it sure doesn’t help further his ego trip. More importantly, it makes the Republicans look like the bunch of inept fools they are.
In the recent election, more people voted for the candidate that supported the ACA then those that voted for the candidate that claimed how bad it was. Yet when faced with the challenge of replacing it, all the Republicans could come up with was to take the money out of the Medicaid expansion and give it to the wealthiest Americans in the form of tax breaks. That says it all. It also reveals how shallow, how absolutely ignorant and how dangerously incompetent conservatives are. This bad bill wasn’t egregious enough for them. And it’s no pat on the back for the moderate Republicans that voiced ‘concern’ about throwing millions out of their coverage because their real reason was their reelection in 18 months.
Now the House takes up tax reform and it’s going to be an even bigger set of hurdles for the GOP and their split ranks.
Yes indeed, never has their been a more inept, corrupt and totally dysfunctional administration in charge of the U.S. Elected by the likes of bacon, dork and Herb, these miscreants deserve no further consideration from the voting public at large. This disease of the political industry could be solved by imposing term limits on both houses of Congress. The old argument was it takes a Congressperson or a Senator a while to learn the ropes and build some rank to become significant and get things done, but as we have seen that is not the case. You see, there can be no claim that cooler heads prevailed. This was strictly a self induced implosion.
Meanwhile the fuckers leading the way have now overturned a soon to be regulation that would prevent ISP’s from selling your aggregate information including your browsing history. So much for privacy. Be sure and google ‘asshole Republicans’ at least once today.March 24, 2017 at 3:34 pm #28159
Disconcerting that Greg Walden was a major player in this fiasco.March 24, 2017 at 4:55 pm #28160radiogeekParticipant
Backing up the bus a moment, and looking at a larger issue.
The Republican Party of today keeps on butting it’s head against something that won’t move. Nominating Trump is simply a symptom of this basic lack of understanding.
Government in a free market society exists to take care of societal needs that are not profitable.
If there could be profit in education, health care, public safety … then we could safely trust the business world to take care of things for us. Competition and free market forces would make it all work. But education, health care etc. are not the same as building and selling cars, and are not optional consumer choices for a healthy society.
The lie that government should be operated like a business is at the core of all the dysfunction we’re watching today. Government is not a business, it’s a shared venture for the public good that is exists to take care of things that need to be done, that aren’t going to be done well by the private sector.March 24, 2017 at 5:21 pm #28162AmusParticipant
^THIS^THIS^THIS^March 24, 2017 at 5:23 pm #28163paulwalkerParticipant
I don’t think this is “backing up the bus” at all. This is simply a truth that even moderate Republicans can understand as demonstrated by the complete failure of Trumpcare by the Republican party. I truly believe this country is great (again, or as always), because we tend to take care of those who need help. While I do think some take advantage of this, most actually need help, and we are civilized enough to help. This hopefully is a universal attitude, not just a political one.March 24, 2017 at 5:26 pm #28164LurkingGrendelParticipant
It’s a cogent series of points and I largely agree with you. Thank you for sharing.
However, I differ with your overview of the motives and associative actions undertaken by the GOP.
You’re charitably ascribing ignorance and misguided intent. I would argue, and could provide a great deal of supportive information, to the contention that the (current incarnation) of the GOP is actively and purposefully hostile to the very concept of a shared common good and the necessity of (many, if not all) governmental institutions. Anything that interferes, however mildly, in the pursuance of ever greater wealth accumulation among a select few at the expense of the many must be eliminated.
The multi-decade health care Kabuki theatre contortions of Republicans, which culminated in yet another laughable disaster today, are a product of a very complex problem they’ve been unable to address. Put succinctly as possible,
• The GOP (meaning, primarily, the moneyed interests that drive all policy at a macro level) have 0.0% interest in the government having *anything* at all to do with health care. If it were up to these people exclusively, there would be no Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, or literally hundreds of other tax payer funded programs and entitlements. If you’re paying attention to what they actually advocate for, not what they say, it really does boil down to, “good luck, you’re on your own. Try not to get sick or in an accident, and if you do, well I hope you’re either blessed to have some kind of healthcare access through a private employer or that you’ve somehow managed to set aside tens of thousands of dollars to pay for these expenditures out of your own pocket. It’s not our problem”.
• That viewpoint is, of course, staggeringly unpopular. Which is why they (The GOP) lie about it incessantly.
The “modern” GOP would make the Robber Barons of The Gilded Age look on in stunned disbelief.
Oh, but don’t worry Trump voters. Next up, The Wizard of Dim will tell you all about the stupendous tax cuts he’ll be making on your behalf. It’ll be huge. It’ll be amazing. Won’t it be great to have the big ole’ bad government out of your pockets? That’ll free up your spending power and personal choices! Of course, if you bothered to read the fine print you’d find that 98% of all of the significant tax savings Trump wants to enact in your name will only benefit the (very, very) wealthy. You’ll see as statistically close to nothing as possible short of being actually zero. Trump will lie about that. Your preferred media diet will lie about it. You’ll ignore all factual evidence to that proves it’s a lie.
Because…because…abortion! Or something.
And the deficit will explode…which it’s done under every Republican President over the past forty years.
Good times.March 24, 2017 at 5:50 pm #28165paulwalkerParticipant
.March 24, 2017 at 6:33 pm #28168VitalogyParticipantMarch 24, 2017 at 6:57 pm #28169skepticalParticipant
Some of the folks in the nitwit wing of the GOP ought to be in the streets for being let down by the nitwits they elected.March 25, 2017 at 7:08 pm #28176
The irony of it all. The Tea Party originally formed to oppose Obamacare passage, ends up saving it.
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