Brussels Burns while Obama is Doing the tango?? WTF

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  • #18954
    radiodork
    Spectator

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3507001/Maybe-advice-Barack-Obama-ignores-calls-come-home-wake-Brussels-attack-President-Michelle-attend-glitzy-state-dinner-Buenos-Aires.html

    I realize Obama could care less about Terrorism and the awful attacks that happend in Brussels, but I think its about time that he actually says the words Radical Islamic Terrorism. Its time for him to admit that it is a problem.

    #18955
    Vitalogy
    Participant

    Radiodouche: Tell us your opinion on Nixon.

    #18956
    radiodork
    Spectator
    #18976
    edselehr
    Participant

    dork: “I think its about time that he actually says the words Radical Islamic Terrorism.”:

    PunditFact:

    While Obama has not used those words, he has acknowledged Islam plays a role in the Islamic State’s strategy. Obama has said that even though the Islamic State uses religion to justify its extremism, its ideology does not mesh with mainstream, modern Islamic thought.

    “They try to portray themselves as religious leaders — holy warriors in defense of Islam. That’s why ISIL presumes to declare itself the ‘Islamic State.’ And they propagate the notion that America — and the West, generally — is at war with Islam,” Obama said at the White House Summit on Countering Violent Extremism last week. “We are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam.”

    Some have noted that this isn’t that different than some of former President George W. Bush’s language following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and at the onset of the war in Afghanistan.

    “This great nation of many religions understands, our war is not against Islam, or against faith practiced by the Muslim people. Our war is a war against evil,” Bush said in 2002.

    Why such a careful choice of words? Experts we contacted offered a few theories.

    For one, the Islamic State is just one of numerous jihadist groups that the United States is fighting in the Middle East and North Africa, including al-Qaida and its affiliates. And the Islamic State has several qualities that set it apart from other jihadi groups, such as their desire to immediately create a caliphate. In that sense, it would be misleading to lump these groups into one singular enemy code-worded Islamic extremism, said James Gelvin, a history professor at the University of California Los Angeles.

    Additionally, several countries helping the United States fight the Islamic State and other terrorist groups are Muslim nations, including Jordan and Saudi Arabia. In those cases, it is in the United States’ interest not to be at war with a religion. And, as Bloomberg’s Eli Lake points out, there are some Muslims around the world who support some radical ideology practiced legally in some Muslim countries, such as honor killings, but they disavow terrorism.

    The tightrope act has had some success, officials say.

    Declassified files from Osama bin Laden’s compound show that the Obama administration’s decision to try and separate terrorist groups from Islam had negatively impacted al-Qaida’s brand. Bin Laden wrote that Muslims were less likely to feel as if they belonged to al-Qaida because the Obama administration had “largely stopped using the phrase ‘the war on terror’ in the context of not wanting to provoke Muslims,” according to the Washington Post.

    dork and the right wing wants a war with Islam, and Obama doesn’t. Thoughtful Americans will side with Obama.

    #18979
    Amus
    Participant

    Meet the new Herb, same as the old Herb…

    #18982
    LurkingGrendel
    Participant

    He sounds mentally ill. Or just laughably credulous and none too bright.

    It’s just (incredible vapid) non critical regurgitation of the most insane, absurd, or hyperbolic venting from the darkest recesses of the far right conservative id. Completely unmoored from objective fact based reality.

    It’s drive by poo flinging.

    #18984
    Langston
    Participant

    In other words a Trump supporter.

    #19033
    missing_kskd
    Participant

    Shit slinger?

    Yeah, I remember that careful consideration was one of the things I thought W got right.

    #19034
    Langston
    Participant

    Next to Trump W looks like Lincoln.

    #19035
    Andy Brown
    Participant

    Dubya’s lock on WPE remains intact as the donald has never been and will never be POTUS.

    Speaking of Herb and Nixon, Nixon was clearly the most evil of all Presidents, Dubya was just a misinformed cowboy with lots of money and great connections. Reagan was homophobic, which alone and/or in combination with his lies and malfeasance, often puts him in the five most evil Presidents category (there are lots of these kind of surveys).
    http://www.alternet.org/culture/six-most-evil-presidents-us-history

    So worst ever or most evil, the donald will never make these lists because he will never be able to win a nationwide general election. Clearly the current climate is leaving many Republicans with little to no desire to even vote.

    #19037
    darth talon
    Participant

    When the U.S.S.R shot down Korean Air Lines flight 007. It took President Reagan over five day before he said anything on the shooting. The reason why? President Reagan was at his ranch in California and wanted to take some time off.

    So I’m sure that all these Republicans and conservatives that are upset and attacking Obama on his handling the Brussels attack. I’m sure that all of them were upset and attacking President Reagan on his response on KAL flight 007 being shot down by the Evil Empire.

    #19038
    LurkingGrendel
    Participant

    The very best, most considered, response to the murderous proclivities of religious extremist douche-tards is to tango. Metaphorically, of course. Though I kind of love the literal in this instance.

    In other words. Keep things in perspective, stay calm and assured, carry on the business of the country as well as business as usual, and simply treat them for what they are: criminals.

    Having The United States reacting out of fear, ignorance, or bigotry is exactly what terrorists hope to achieve. By denying them that we deny them the reactions they desperately want and actually undercut their support throughout the Arab world.

    Islamic terrorists are not collectively holed up in a hollowed out volcano being led by a real world analogue of Cobra Commander. They follow an ideology; not an organized state. You can’t invade them with your military. Declaring a war on terror is about as intelligent as declaring a war on gravity. The ultimate outcome will be similar.

    Oh, you can try. We see how well that worked out. Thank you again for causing the deaths of thousands of U.S. troops and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians, W. And congratulations on continuing to ignore that, Republicans.

    And that’s the what the idiots on the right are all clamoring for yet again. War. Death. Torture. Chaos. In the disturbed world of Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, and their ignorant supporters (Hi Dork!) the answer to terrorism is always to bring out the big guns. You know, in spite of the fact it’s proven not to work and will only create the very outcome the terrorists want: The perception of a “war against Islam”. By being a huge (dumb) bigot and attempting to tar the religion of billions of people with a broad brush Trump is actively giving radical Islamic terrorists exactly what they want.

    That’s opposed to what President Obama and the Democrats want: Hunting down the individuals responsible for atrocities, denying them funding, denying them safe havens, (largely through the use of domestic and international law enforcement in concert with some carefully considered use of military force) being careful to cultivate allies throughout the Arab world, and take great pains to underscore that we are not at war with an entire religion. Rather, just some truly disturbed lunatics who in no way are emblematic of the mindset of the vast majority of Muslims.

    If you believe otherwise, you’re both a bigot and sadly misinformed. Or terribly misled by hapless fools in red hats with pithy slogans. Have fun with that.

    You don’t defeat religious lunatics by yourself becoming one.

    And by the way, you’re more likely to die by tripping down the stairs than in a terrorist attack.

    #19040
    Alfredo_T
    Participant

    Is radiodork Digitaldextor v2.0?

    For those who do not remember, Digitaldextor was an enthusiastic George Bush supporter in 2004. In one exchange, (s)he told a poster that he would be busy cleaning dog poop from his shoes (in other words, threatening to fling a flaming bag of dog crap onto his porch). In another discussion, he told a participant to listen to KTRO for the real facts about Bush’s merits and the dangers of terrorism.

    #19046
    Dxer1969
    Participant

    Actually, President Obama is doing something! Shit! He has done more than that POS Dubya ever did!

    #19137
    radiodork
    Spectator

    And Hillary Clinton supported the war in Iraq, just like Bush.
    My stomach churns just thinking about that. UGH!
    So Much experience, yet so many extremely poor decisions made by her. I don’t think the country can take any more of her poor decisions.

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