April 3, 2020 at 3:17 pm #45575Andy BrownParticipant
ATSC 3.0 receiver availability will be delayed significantly. After an extended vacation for the Chinese New Year, the Covid virus resulted in the shutdown of all Chinese manufacturing which will certainly affect the rollout of receivers in the U.S.
In fact, the current situation has even taken the wind out of the sails of the rollout on the transmitting end of the upgrade. To date, only 24 applications to broadcast 3.0 have been filed with the FCC. So the industry was looking to NAB 2020 as the place to get more clarity — until the annual convention was canceled on March 11.
In addition, the economy is in a big downturn. That means that folks are not going to replace existing hardware just to be current, opting to wait until their cash flow comes back to normal. Even an inexpensive converter box will be deemed a luxury. Assuming that all the new TVs with new tuners that were to be demo’d at NAB eventually go into mass production, it will be a while until a. they arrive in the U.S. and b. are affordable by a U.S. public being beaten down by a huge recession, the size and duration of which is still unknown.
Sorry to burst anyone’s balloon, but a spoonful of reality was needed in this thread.
Sure, wealthy early adopters will spend anything to get their local bragging rights in place but don’t expect the fact that Portland is an early rollout of the technology to override the reality of the current situation.April 27, 2020 at 7:55 pm #46063
From the Antenna Man on You TubeApril 27, 2020 at 11:28 pm #46064
Thank for the post. I guess he has no idea that 3.0 has not launched as yet. I read Las Vegas in late May and Portland in early June. It would be nice to have one, but it will be years until 3.0 gets out to the Coast.April 28, 2020 at 3:50 am #46067
Mentioning more channels in 3.0. Portland TV stations do not carry many diginets available in smaller markets. Heroes & Icon’s, RTV, Movies, and Decades that KOIN used to have. Hopefully with 3.0 we will get more diginets. I read KRCW no longer has THIS either. Decades was very popular.May 14, 2020 at 8:58 am #46299DarkStarParticipantMay 15, 2020 at 11:56 am #46303
Thanks for the update.May 16, 2020 at 9:45 am #46319NotalentParticipant
So this ATSC3, This will mean I can watch Green Acres OTA in 4k?
May 16, 2020 at 2:13 pm #46325
- This reply was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by Notalent.
Only is the original is re-done in real 4K. Disney is doing that with their library and it is expensive and very slow going. They only seem to add an old one every month or so in 4K.
They just added “The Boy Who Talked to Badgers”, from the Wonderful World of Disney 1975. I doubt all of the old sitcoms will be re-done in 4K.June 2, 2020 at 1:48 am #46648
Now is the time to start checking ATSC signal/streams with TSReader Lite software.
Over the next two months most of the diginet streams on each channel will start to look a little fuzzy. Thanks to the upcoming channel sharing agreement later this summer.
As I’m looking at the stream of each stations. I see KATU is currently the only station nearly ready to add another stream. Two 720p streams and three 480i streams.
KOIN, KGW and KPTV are still show large bandwidth allocation to there dot 1 channels. But that will change once these ATSC 1.0 stream. Are reconfigured for one HD stream for KOIN and KGW. And two HD streams for KPTV.
Each station will host at least five SD streams. Something that is currently seen over at KPXG.
There going to be that rare opportunity. To have a few days of dualcasting. Before KRCW and KPDX signal are coverted to ATSC 3.0 …June 2, 2020 at 8:59 pm #46656
Since I never seen anything over 1 HD/3 SD on a channel, and we do not get ION via a translator out here on the coast, or for that matter TBN. How does ION look as far as pq?June 3, 2020 at 2:04 am #46658
All the stations in Portland except for KPXG. Are configured for a resolution of 704 x 480i for all there SD Streams.
Here is how channel streams are carved out for KPXG.
Resolution 1280 x 720p – The same used for chs 2 12 49
22.1 ION —— 7.25 Mbps
This is how KPXG has it’s six SD streams setup.
Resolution 528 x 480i (Not 704 x 480i)
22.3 ION Plus — 2.25 Mbps
22.4 ION Shop — 1.85 Mbps
22.7 Telemundo – 2.10 Mbps
The first three SD have a good PQ
Resolution 528 x 480i (Not 704 x 480i)
22.2 qubo —– 1.40 Mbps
22.5 QVC —— 1.40 Mbps
22.6 HSN —— 800 Kbps (From ch 22 analong days)
But the last three SD look fuzzy and sometime Macroblocking appears. Qubo is programming for kids. And QVC and HSN are shopping channels.June 3, 2020 at 1:48 pm #46661
Thanks. I figured the low rate would give poor results like on the shopping channels. It will be interesting to see how the pq is on the stacking…June 10, 2020 at 5:29 pm #46786
Sinclair Broadcast is starting to convert. Some of there stations to ATSC 3.0 service. Las Vegas and Nashville will be joining Portland soon.
If I were to guess who going NG3 in Seattle. It would have to be Sinclair owned KUNS-TV and Tegna owned KONG-TV.June 10, 2020 at 7:20 pm #46790
I wonder if the stacking will be earlier? They would have to do a lot if all was going to be done on 7/28. A friend who was watching Jeff Geanola on the KOIN news, said that Antenna TV would be joining KOIN. I phoned KOIN to find out, but they don’t seem to have any plans on moving Antenna TV directly to 6. He must have been referring to the stacking coming up next month. I did not ask, and no one volunteered any info in contacting KOIN. I figure the TV stations themselves will announce the changes. I know sometimes stations can be very closed lip on stories and they want to announce it when they want to.June 11, 2020 at 12:21 am #46796
OPB has filed it’s NG3 paperwork with FCC. KPDX will be carrying KOPB main channel. On their ATSC 3.0 lighthouse signal.
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