A fired Mueller likely would begin impeachment

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  • #35581

    paulwalker
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    #35582

    Andrew
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    Senator Flake has nothing to do with impeachment. He’s a vote at the senate trial for or against conviction but that’s it.

    #35583

    Vitalogy
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    Jeff Flake is a big fat pussy.

    And Trump cares zero about his opinion.

    I have no doubt at this point that Trump will do what it takes to end the Mueller probe. Including firing everyone in range and creating a constitutional crisis.

    The only remaining question is, how will the GOP react? Will they be limp dicks like they have so far or will they find the fortitude to grab their sack?

    #35584

    edselehr
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    Nope. The leadership of the House and the Senate are lapdogs to the actions of this president. They realize acting against him not only destroys anything they may want to accomplish this year, but virtually guarantees a Dem takeover of Congress this fall, along with a very likely Dem takeover of the White House in 2020 (even if Trump is impeached or resigns, Pence will finish his term).

    Impeachment can only happen with a Democratic House of Representatives. And even then, it would take a gargantuan effort to get the 67 votes needed for conviction in the Senate, even if the Dems win control – because they are not going to make it to 67 seats this election cycle, if ever.

    #35588

    semoochie
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    While I differ with Jeff Flake politically, I kind of feel sorry for him because he is a traditional republican, along the lines of Barry Goldwater and has not changed his stance one iota but has been painted as a liberal by Trump! After that stunt last week, the house republicans will be lucky if they aren’t all sent to prison for obstructing justice and the rest of the party will lucky if it survives this administration!

    #35590

    edselehr
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    It’s so clear that the Republican Party is being drug down to oblivion by Trump, but they don’t seem to care. It seems they are of the attitude of “grab what we can, while we can, because this ship is sinking no matter what”. Loyal to the end, even if the end is only 7 months away.

    I pine for the days of two parties that respected the loyal opposition of the other. Politics of divisiveness are what the Right is about now – right out of the fascist playbook.

    #35593

    Andrew
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    Hey, the Republicans got their tax plan passed. That was their BIGGEST priority. So they are basically happy – anything else they get at this point is icing on the cake, even if they lose Congress in 2018. Mission accomplished.

    Trump impeached or not is probably irrelevant to them now. Even if Democrats can flip everything by 2021, repealing the tax bill, as we saw after Bush’s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, will be very difficult and impossible to roll back completely. Republicans can just hang on for another few terms and the pendulum will swing back to them and they can roll back some more taxes. A little at a time.

    #35594

    cbaravelli
    Spectator

    meh
    President can’t “fire” Special Prosecutor. Doesn’t work that way.
    But, if all this keeps folks like y’all distracted, then its working.
    Senator Flake a Goldwater Republican? News to me. If anything, he’s a RINO and in six months he’s gone. So, who cares?

    #35600

    edselehr
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    cbaravelli, even you aren’t that naive.

    Nixon couldn’t directly fire Archibald Cox either. But when Nixon wanted him gone, he was gone, though he has to burn through a couple AG’s and acting AG’s to fine a lackey that would do his bidding. (remember Bork?)

    Trump has no more barriers to doing so that Nixon had; in fact, Trump has a compliant Congress completely unwilling to check him when he overreaches, making it even more likely Trump would take such an action. And you know Trump has no compunction against doing so.

    #35601

    cbaravelli
    Spectator

    Naw, jis’ mo’ edjamacated.
    Archie Cox was a “Special Prosecutor”. The Law’s changed since 1973. Ain’t no Speshal Proscutor’s Office no mo’.
    28 CFR Part 600 – GENERAL POWERS OF SPECIAL COUNSEL [1999]
    This is in response to “depends on what your definition of is is”.
    AG Sessions said this week he won’t fire the “Special Counsel” without cause. Some say there is. But that is debatable.

    #35608

    skeptical
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    I don’t know about an impeachment, but I’m quite sure we’re going to see the Mother of All Self-Implosion very soon. I await the day he is tarred and feathered by the very people that brought him to office. Only the Obama economy has saved him thus far.

    #35610

    Vitalogy
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    He’s gonna get his. Just a matter of time.

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