5 disturbing stats on black-white inequality

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  • #3656

    Vitalogy
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    http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/21/news/economy/black-white-inequality/index.html?iid=HP_LN

    Wow. Those are some disturbing stats.

    And who was it that was talking about the priviledge of being black?

    #3658

    Amus
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    Interesting.

    A typical black household has accumulated less than one-tenth of the wealth of a typical white one. And it’s only getting worse.

    Perhaps we should suspend their voting rights until they get their shit together.

    #3691

    missing_kskd
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    Yes, and continue regular and consistent beatings, until their morale improves.

    #3693

    jerry1949
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    Liberal coddling keeps them dependent and high abortion rates keep them from growing relative to the white population. The responsibility for the plight of blacks rests with the white liberals who use and exploit them for political gain.

    #3695

    missing_kskd
    Participant

    Where are those positive policy statements?

    “But the liberals” doesn’t cut it.

    #3700

    duxrule
    Participant

    Hey, “Jerry,” you left out the whole “bootstraps” thing. :-p

    #3701

    Amus
    Participant

    Jerry,

    Please name three ways in which Liberals coddle African Americans.

    Then can we discuss how the Republican Southern Strategy may have a play in the current state of race relations?

    I don’t think it’s unfair to say that Conservatives have a 50 year history of coddling racists.

    #3747

    edselehr
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    “Liberal coddling keeps them dependent and high abortion rates keep them from growing relative to the white population. The responsibility for the plight of blacks rests with the white liberals who use and exploit them for political gain.”

    First of all, that “high abortion rates” comment is a weird non sequitur.

    But the thing that really gets me is the “Liberal coddling keeps them dependent” thing. I’m not going to deny the “liberal” part, and if by “coddling” you mean public assistance for the poor and impoverished, then I as a liberal am proud to take credit for that.

    Here’s the deal: those so-called “coddling” programs exist for everyone, and all benefit by them even if one is not using them. If your claim that poor blacks stay poor when they say to themselves, “Why should I work when government will pay me to not work?” is true, then why doesn’t everyone just not work then? Makes sense – if government assistance is there to hand out free ‘stuff’ to poor people (specifically here, poor blacks) then why should anyone work? But in fact, many, many Americans work their asses off every day at minimum-wage jobs that don’t get their much further ahead than if they did live on government assistance.

    What you are really saying, subtly, is that poor blacks are inherently lazy and will not work unless forced by circumstance to have to work. Poor blacks will not work unless they are faced with starvation and homelessness first, because they are leeches and moochers at heart. And that, F&B, is racism.

    Providing help to the poor is not racist – or else Jesus was a racist. Believing that help given to the poor exacerbates a character flaw inherent to those poor people is absolutely racist.

    #3749

    jerry1949
    Spectator

    If there was ever any doubt that the Democrats take the black vote for granted, that doubt should have been put to rest when Barack Obama told the Congressional Black Caucus, “Stop whining!”

    Have you ever before heard either a Democratic or a Republican leader tell his party’s strongest supporters, “Stop whining”?

    Blacks have a lot to complain about, not just about this Democratic administration but about many other Democratic administrations, national and local, over the years.

    Unfortunately, black voters, like many other voters, often judge by rhetoric, rather than realities. When it comes to racial rhetoric, the Democrats outdo the Republicans by miles.

    Even Ronald Reagan, the great communicator, had problems communicating with black voters, as I pointed out years ago in my book “A Personal Odyssey” (pages 274-278).

    All this came back to me during a recent cleanup of my office, which turned up an old yellowed copy of the New York Times with the following front-page headline: “White-Black Disparity in Income Narrowed in 80’s, Census Shows” (July 24, 1992).

    How many people in the media have pointed out that the black-white income gap narrowed during the Reagan administration, just as it has widened during the Obama administration? For that matter, how many Republicans have pointed it out?

    The Reagan administration did not have any special program to narrow the racial gap in incomes. The point is that the kinds of policies followed in the 1980s had that effect, just as the kinds of policies followed by the Obama administration had opposite effects. But just listening to rhetoric won’t tell you that.

    Over the years, some of the most devastating policies, in terms of their actual effects on black people, have come from liberal Democrats, from the local to the national level.

    As far back as the Roosevelt administration during the Great Depression of the 1930s, liberal Democrats imposed policies that had counterproductive effects on blacks. None cost blacks more jobs than minimum wage laws.

    In countries around the world, minimum wage laws have a track record of increasing unemployment, especially among the young, the less skilled and minorities. It has done the same in America.

    One of the first acts of the Roosevelt administration was to pass the National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933, which included establishing minimum wages nationwide. It has been estimated that blacks lost 500,000 jobs as a result.

    After that Act was declared unconstitutional, the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 set minimum wages. In the tobacco industry alone, two thousand black workers were replaced by machines, just as blacks had been replaced by machines in the textile industry after the previous minimum wage law.

    Fortunately, the high inflation of the 1940s raised the wages of even unskilled labor above the level prescribed by the minimum wage law. The net result was that this law became virtually meaningless, until the minimum wage rate was raised in 1950.

    During the late 1940s, when the minimum wage law had essentially been repealed by inflation, 16- and 17-year-old blacks in 1948 had an unemployment rate of 9.4 percent, slightly lower than that of whites the same ages and a fraction of what it would be in even the boom years after the minimum wage rate kept getting increased by liberal Democrats.

    Urban Renewal was another big Democratic liberal idea. It destroyed mostly low-income minority neighborhoods and replaced them with upscale housing that the former residents could not afford. People by the hundreds of thousands were scattered to the winds, destroying community ties between families, neighbors and local institutions from churches to family doctors to businesses.

    Even when liberal Democrats try specifically to help blacks, the results often backfire. The political crusade for “affordable housing” and minority home ownership drew many blacks into homes they could not afford. The net result was an especially high rate of foreclosure and, in the end, black home ownership rates lower than they were before the “affordable housing” crusade began.

    Listening to political rhetoric often leads to opposite conclusions from those resulting from checking out hard facts — and not just for blacks.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2011/10/04/stop_whining/page/full

    #3750

    duxrule
    Participant

    We’ve previously proven to you that Thomas Sowell is not a trustworthy source. You need to get someone that’s actually accurate in what they say.

    #3751

    jerry1949
    Spectator

    Nobody here has “proven” anything about Thomas Sowell, the brilliant economist. You’ve only proven that blacks who think outside the box and don’t know their place are not to be trusted.

    What you are really saying, subtly, is that poor blacks are inherently lazy and will not work unless forced by circumstance to have to work. Poor blacks will not work unless they are faced with starvation and homelessness first, because they are leeches and moochers at heart. And that, F&B, is racism.

    I’m not saying that or implying that and it’s not what I think. But I do believe that incentives to work can be destroyed (regardless of race).

    #3752

    Broadway
    Participant

    Thomas Sowell…seems like a great thinker to me…writing more than anyone here….http://www.tsowell.com/

    #3753

    edselehr
    Participant

    “What you are really saying, subtly, is that poor blacks are inherently lazy and will not work unless forced by circumstance to have to work. Poor blacks will not work unless they are faced with starvation and homelessness first, because they are leeches and moochers at heart. And that, F&B, is racism.”

    I’m not saying that or implying that and it’s not what I think. But I do believe that incentives to work can be destroyed (regardless of race).

    Again, public assistance programs are available to all; those that currently use them and those that don’t currently, but could if they were to fall into poverty. Why don’t YOU just stop working and leech off the government? It’s right there, available for you to use right now. Why aren’t your “incentives to work destroyed?” What is the difference between those that use welfare programs and yourself?

    The Answer: because you believe that there are good people and bad people, that there are lazy people and productive people, that there are good citizens and there are criminals. And since blacks have a higher poverty rate than whites, they are in aggregate “lazier” than whites.

    You are a 47 percenter. You believe that there are good, hard working Americans (of all races, but mostly white) and there are “takers” (of all races, but mostly people of color). And by saying that helping the poor or establishing a minimum fair wage for an hour’s work is somehow “enabling” the poor, you are most certainly not a Christian.

    #3756

    duxrule
    Participant

    Hey, “Jer” and BW, you’re the ones who might need to “expand” your reading catalog:

    Thomas Sowell: Idiot Emeritus
    http://otoolefan.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/thomas-sowell-idiot-emeritus/

    #3776

    Vitalogy
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    Every single conservative news outlet has been against Michael Brown from day one. It’s almost been a celebration.

    And then conservatives wonder why blacks don’t vote for them?

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