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    Andy Brown
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    5 lies a day is the average for the drumpf character. It’s hard to believe that a single fabulist such as drumpf could actually generate this much misleading bullshit per day, but there are very few if any of his lies and misleading non truths listed in any of the available databases tracking such things that are the result of over zealous reporting or left sided ambition.
    It’s all right there to see every day on the screen.

    drumpf is quick to make claims full of superlatives — the greatest this and the most beautiful that — with little to no empirical evidence to support them. Trump proposed deep tax cuts, but so far, he has released only a nine-page framework that would start negotiations with lawmakers. Yet since five months ago, he flatly proclaimed his plan “is actually bigger than Reagan tax cuts.”

    drumpf’s modus operandi is easily discredited by simply stating known facts, something drumpf is apparently allergic to.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/10/president-trump-has-made-1318-false-or-misleading-claims-over-263-days/?utm_term=.00cb7d0ab369

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/

    Clearly, drumpf is the most dishonest president in history.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

    #32393

    skeptical
    Participant

    On the up side, today, Dortard’s babysitter gave the most honest press conference since, well, Josh.

    #32405

    Andy Brown
    Participant

    When you start to realize (start?) that drumpf is really a stupid self serving egomaniac with blatant disregard for freedom, peace and good health it is difficult to accept a political system that is corrupt and being controlled by the far worse of the two main political parties.

    #32428

    cbaravelli
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    In comparison to the lack of Truth from the previous Administration the current White House is a refreshing change.
    Literal interpretations of and reactions to Trump are his greatest weapons. Ask “Rocket Man”.
    Jeff Bezos does own the WaPost y’know.

    #32429

    edselehr
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    Cite ten Obama lies, cbaravelli. Oh heck, cite five.

    #32430

    Langston
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    When the remains of 4 soldiers ambushed in Benghazi returned home, both Obama and Clinton were there.

    When the remains of 4 soldiers ambushed in Niger returned home, Trump was playing golf.

    #32454

    cbaravelli
    Participant

    When the remains of 4 soldiers ambushed in Niger returned home, Trump was playing golf. That’s a lie.

    Near all politicians lie, particularly during campaigns. But since you are tossing the softball…

    “If you like your healthcare plan, you will be able to keep your healthcare plan.”
    “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor.”
    “We’re going to lower your premiums by up to $2500 per family per year.”
    “No family making less than $250,000 a year will see their taxes increase.”
    “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits, now or in the future.”
    “I will sign a universal healthcare bill into law…that covers every American.”
    To be fair, Jonathan Gruber: “lack of transparency is a huge political advantage, and basically, call it the stupidity of the American voter.”

    During the campaign: ” I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ’08″; “My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom”; “Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter”; “Selma [1965] Got Me Born”; “My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian” [1/2 lie]; “My Name is African Swahili”; “I Never Practiced Islam”; “My School In Indonesia Was Christian [3/4 lie]”; “I Was Fluent In Indonesian”; “I Was A Professor Of Law”; “I Have Released My State Records” [BIG Lie]; “No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA”; “I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate”; “I Want Americans To Decide”; “I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics” in response to his first Illinois Stae Senate ‘victory’ after his successful disqualification of the imcumbant Senator. “I Am As Patriotic As Anyone” which is open to interpretation.

    Meanwhile: “We will pursue a One China policy” which flipped the six decade long U.S. policy of favoring the Republic of Chine over the Peoples Republic of China.
    “My Economics Bill Will Help America”
    “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon”
    “I will end Bush’s surveillance of U.S. citizens who were not suspected of committing a crime”
    “The auto bailouts prevented Detroit from going bankrupt” [2/3 lie]
    “We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized,”
    “There were protestors in front of the Benghazi embassy which spun out of control.”
    “I make absolutely no apologies for making sure that we get back a young man [SGT Bowe Bergdahl who “served with honor and distinction”] to his parents and that the American people understand that this is somebody’s child and that we don’t condition whether or not we make the effort to try to get them back.”

    I could go on and on but space is limited. During both campaigns Obama surrogates spent an estimated $2.2M scrubbing his past. His Mother’s “porn pictures”, Certificate of Live Birth {although notices in two Honolulu Sunday newspapers are proof enough for Me}, Aqiqah [Moslem Bar Mitzvah] photos, arrest records in Hawai’i and Illinois, two fraudulent Selective Service cards, High school and college writings and grade records etc.
    Perhaps the biggest mis-statemet of facts is Barry’s own auto-biography “Son of My Father”. Senior is not Junior’s father. “Uncle Frank” Marshall Davis is.

    America had to endure two bad Presidents for sixteen years. Considering the three choices last year. I think America made the right one.
    !BAM! Out of the park four bagger.

    #32456

    Andy Brown
    Participant

    Too bad (for you) your “home run” hitter is striking out more than the Babe, more than the Mick . . . truth is he’s been a sub .200 hitter his whole life. Bankruptcies (plural), divorces (plural), etc. all underscore his inabilities.

    Oh, BTW, I added up your list (which you did not reveal a source to) and it falls far short of the list I posted/linked compiled by The Washington Post numbering over a thousand. Obama may have been a typical political donut but drumpf is a donut hole. There’s nothing there of substance. It’s clearly been all about himself. To even draw comparisons as you have done (and certainly have the option to do) is ludicrous.

    drumpf is treading water at the deep end of the pool and will soon drown in a wash of his own lies and deceit. Oh, and if you need any more convincing of how lecherous and amoral the drumpfster is, read this:

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

    and it will only plummet further as people lose their health insurance and suffer an increase to their tax burdens so the wealthy can get richer.

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/29/news/economy/gop-tax-reform-middle-class/index.html

    Oh, and where is all that infrastructure repair money that drumpf promised? In fact, drumpf is likely to fail on almost every campaign pledge in 2017.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/14/global-cfo-council-trump-likely-to-fail-on-almost-every-campaign-pledge-in-2017.html

    As is usually the case, your only defense of drumpf is to attack Obama. I get it, there is no defense for drumpf. He is the worst president in our history, bar none, and in the end will be found to be a bigger criminal, a larger bigot and a more disturbing social loser then Nixon was.

    Nice try, though, but your BAM out of the park was a foul ball. Very foul.

    #32457

    Amus
    Participant

    Feel the burn!

    #32462

    cbaravelli
    Participant

    “Cite ten Obama lies, cbaravelli. Oh heck, cite five”
    That was the challenge.
    Dude: turn down the volume. You’re at eleven.
    Reliance on NYT WaPost CNN NBC Snopes, FactChecker as impartial accurate sources is like believing in the Tooth Fairy or in Global Warming. Wishful thinking.
    Would you at least accept the notion both Presidents will fail to implement their agendas due to Do Nothing Congresses.
    Obama was the worst President during my lifetime. Even worse than Carter.
    Richard Simmons meme seems appropriate considering its source.
    !BooYaa!

    #32463

    Vitalogy
    Participant

    Sorry dude, but Breitbart crap won’t cut it here and neither will the racist dog whistles. Barry? Birther?

    I think it’s obvious why you think Obama was the worst.

    #32478

    cbaravelli
    Participant

    The Race Card. How quaint. But you got me. I hate the Scot-Irish and French Huguenots.
    Thank you for coming in. The bailiff has papers for you to sign.

    #32480

    Amus
    Participant

    There are times when playing the race card is absolutely appropriate.

    The whole birther movement was total racist dog whistle.

    #1 on the list of Republican dog whistles in fact.

    https://www.newstatesman.com/world/2012/07/top-five-racist-republican-dog-whistles

    #32482

    Vitalogy
    Participant

    Using the term “Barry” is also a dog whistle.

    #32483

    cbaravelli
    Participant

    Alex Hern? New Statesman? Fabian Society? [this site has a great speel checker] Breitbart’s breitbart.com was far more accurate and unbiased. Although Steve Bannon and his folks did ruin it by chasing clicks and eyeballs.

    1960 Hawai’i was very “ali wai’, very relaxed. Recall Barak was not born in a hospital. Not having a true BIRTH CERTIFICATE is understandable. Although the certificate produced after the 2012 DNC Convention is an obvious forgery produced by a campaign staff member who said he knew how to ‘Photochop’. Why argue the ‘Birther Movement”. Moot point.

    Is ‘race’ more important to you than it is for me? If so, what are your solutions?

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