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You may want to re-think your next fast food hamburger choice

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  • Started 4 years ago by Chris_taylor
  • Latest reply from trixter

  1. This is simply gross.

    Two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions -- and ammonia? It sounds disgusting, but it's true. The New York Times reported in a story that flew under the radar on December 31st that McDonald's, Burger King, and other fast food chains, school lunch programs, and even supermarkets have been using and selling hamburger meat for years that contains ammonia. The ammonia is in filler from a company called Beef Products that's mixed in with ground meat. It's made of fatty meat scraps that previously had only been used in pet food and cooking oil. These scraps are more often contaminated with things like e. coli and salmonella, but about eight years ago, the Beef Products people came up with the idea of adding ammonia to the scraps to kill bacteria. The United States Department of Agriculture approved the process, and use of the filler product became widespread, saving money for food companies. Beyond the incredibly disgusting factor, the Times also reported that the process may not work that well all the time. It said E. coli and salmonella have been found dozens of times in testing for the school lunch program of Beef Products filler.

    Posted on February 2, 2010 - 12:55 PM #
  2. Andy_brown

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    Sorry to pop your balloon, but this is not news.

    • The human body naturally produces ammonia every day.
    • Ammonia naturally enters and leaves your body every day.
    • Ammonia is essential for maintaining the acid-base balance in your body and so keeps you healthy.
    • Ammonia is a critical element in the transition of Nitrogen from N2 to N1. Nitrogen in the form of N1 is an essential element for life.
    • Ammonia has been used for many years as a processing aid in thousands of food and beverage products.
    • Ammonia is present in foods. Ammonia in peanut butter (489 ppm), American cheese (813 ppm), and domestic blue cheese (1,376 ppm). The typical ammonia aroma of Brie and Camembert cheeses indicates higher levels of ammonia.
    • Meat that has been pH enhanced with ammonium hydroxide is a natural addition to the wide range of consumer food products that include ammonia in their processing. Of all the foods that contain ammonium hydroxide, these meats have levels lower than other foods including the before mentioned American cheese, domestic blue cheese, peanut butter and gourmet brie and camembert cheeses.
    • Meat that has been pH enhanced has been validated to produce significant reductions in microbial counts compared to non-enhanced meat.
    • As with EVERY substance, the amount (i.e., the dose) determines whether the substance has a beneficial or potentially harmful effect.

    Posted on February 2, 2010 - 01:00 PM #
  3. Thanks for the amendment Andy. Learned something new today.

    Posted on February 2, 2010 - 01:08 PM #
  4. skeptical

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    This is one of the rare few times I support a homeopathic remedy. The more the watered down the ammonia is, the better the food.

    Posted on February 2, 2010 - 01:46 PM #
  5. Notalent

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    In the case of a fast food burger, the less food in the food, the better it is for you.

    Posted on February 2, 2010 - 02:10 PM #
  6. Skep I couldn't agree more. I stopped going to fast food joints 15-20 years ago.

    Posted on February 2, 2010 - 02:30 PM #
  7. Alfredo_T

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    A few weeks ago, a co-worker sent me a link to an article about the Beef Products ammonia-treated hamburger meat. In that article, Beef Products stated that if the ground meat is properly cooked, most of the ammonia evaporates. I read that and thought, wouldn't proper cooking of the meat also kill off e-coli, thereby averting the problem altogether?

    Posted on February 2, 2010 - 03:47 PM #
  8. Notalent

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    for more on the subject, see the movie:

    Posted on February 2, 2010 - 04:03 PM #
  9. Anonymous

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    Watch the above movie and you will swear off fast food forever!

    Posted on February 2, 2010 - 05:30 PM #

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