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Which NFL Vacancy Will Kelly Take?

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  1. paulwalker

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    Now that there are 7 new openings for head coaches in the NFL, it probably is a given that Chip Kelly will be heading to the pros. Which team will land him? I have heard Philly and Cleveland are two that are quite interested.

    Posted on December 31, 2012 - 05:22 PM #
  2. NoParty

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    I'd like to say San Diego but they don't have the players that would complement his offense if he brings what he's been doing in Eugene to the NFL. For that matter unless Kelly has a good idea of what he is going to run in the NFL there isn't one job opening that has a QB that could run anything Oregon has run in the last 4 years....

    Posted on December 31, 2012 - 05:26 PM #
  3. paulwalker

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    Chip is a New England/East coast guy. Philly may be attractive, but is also one of the toughest media markets in the country, probably 2nd to NYC.

    Posted on December 31, 2012 - 05:45 PM #
  4. Brianl

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    The best fit for what he does offensively would be Philadelphia. IF they keep Michael Vick, which I don't foresee.

    Posted on December 31, 2012 - 05:51 PM #
  5. Vitalogy

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    If Kelly is smart, he'll stay at UO. He should ask Coach K at Duke about what it means to become a legand.

    If Kelly goes to the NFL, he'll be on the scrap heap after 4 years.

    Posted on December 31, 2012 - 07:17 PM #
  6. Brianl

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    I agree Vit. I don't think he's on the level of Coach K, and I don't know if we'll ever see it to that extent in college football again, but he has a fantastic gig, in a town and with a fanbase that adores him, and if money is a factor, Uncle Phil has no problem opening up the pursestrings.

    I feel that one deciding factor could be how the NCAA comes down regarding the Willie Lyles case.

    Posted on December 31, 2012 - 07:36 PM #
  7. Vitalogy

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    At the end of the day, when it comes to sports, all you're left with is your legacy. I'm personally a big fan of coaches and players who's legacy includes a long time association with a single team. If Kelly is able to put together a 20 year string at UO, continue to change the game as he has the last few years, he'll be well on his way.

    My advice to him is that the grass in NOT greener. The grass is green where he's at and he needs to work on harvesting it.

    Posted on December 31, 2012 - 07:42 PM #
  8. Agree with Vit completely.

    Rich Brooks, Mike Riley and others have tried...very few college coaches succeed in the NFL because it's just a different game. The money is hard to pass up, but NCAA D1 coaches earn a nice paycheck. I think Kelly can cement his name in the college history books. If he stays 20 years and can win at least one national championship if not two...legend will be Kelly's middle name.

    Posted on December 31, 2012 - 09:40 PM #
  9. skeptical

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    On the other hand, legacies have backfired. Just ask Joe.

    I also don't think Uncle Phil likes Chip that much. But there are two jets in the Nike hanger. If he spares one and provides unlimited fuel, I could be persuaded to stay with the Ducks.

    Posted on January 1, 2013 - 02:02 AM #
  10. NoParty

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    Chip is going to have to change his offense completely if he goes to the NFL and the magic that he has had at U of O will be gone! Vick can't even run his offense anymore....

    Posted on January 1, 2013 - 05:17 PM #
  11. paulwalker

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    You guys bring up some good points on many different levels, but the bottom line is Chip is probably the most wanted college coach by the NFL right now. I'm sure he loves his job, but he is human, and I'm sure the offers will be tempting. He can basically write his own ticket. However, it is obvious nothing will happen until after the Fiesta.

    BTW, I also think the NFL can change, and while it might take a year or two, I think he could change offensive philosophies in the NFL at the end of the day.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000120817/article/chip-kelly-deflects-nfl-questions-with-oregon-ducks

    Posted on January 1, 2013 - 05:43 PM #
  12. NoParty

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    Problem with the changes that Chip COULD make in the NFL if he runs an Oregon style offense has to be that defensive lineman/backs are stronger and FASTER in the NFL and every team would need 5-6 QB's to get through the season.

    Posted on January 1, 2013 - 06:45 PM #
  13. Bringing innovation to any professional setting always comes with critics until the innovation becomes the standard.

    If Kelly's heart is trying to give the NFL a new look, more exciting brand of football then great. But he will need the right fit and a very understanding ownership of what kind of players will work best in that system.

    Could be interesting.

    Posted on January 1, 2013 - 08:13 PM #
  14. NoParty

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    Thank you Chris for being more eloquent about what I was saying....

    Posted on January 2, 2013 - 01:00 AM #
  15. What's apparent to me, the NCAA sanctions about ready to burn a hole in Kelly's pants. He's out of here.

    BTW I say Kelly goes to Cleveland.

    Posted on January 2, 2013 - 04:55 PM #
  16. duxrule

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    If Kelly makes a move, and I still think it's a BIG if, Cleveland makes more sense than Philly. Michael Vick is a shadow of his former self, and they've got other issues in Philly besides just who's pulling the trigger. The Luries are some of the worst owners in the business. It all depends on who's going to give him the tools he thinks he needs to succeed.

    Posted on January 2, 2013 - 05:01 PM #
  17. NoParty

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    I don't think that all the QB's on Cleveland's roster can run Kelly's offense period!

    Posted on January 2, 2013 - 08:23 PM #
  18. duxrule

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    ESPN is reporting that he's going to interview with the Browns, Bills and Eagles. I still think that it's presumptuous to definitely say he's going to the NFL. He's not going to go if he doesn't think the pieces are there. Kelly may be an arrogant SOB (inside info from people who worked in the UO AD), but he's not stupid. He understands that the NFL is a different beast, and requires a different mindset to succeed.

    Posted on January 2, 2013 - 09:35 PM #
  19. Brianl

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    Dux - it doesn't take someone from inside Oregon's athletic department to alert us that Chip Kelly is arrogant. Any layman who pays the slightest bit of attention can come to that conclusion on their own.

    Chip would probably get some more personnel autonomy in Cleveland or Buffalo than he would in Philadelphia. Cleveland has a brand new owner who wants to put his stamp on the league, and make the Browns contenders again. Ralph Wilson just turned control of the Bills over to his son, who might want to change things up a bit.

    Dux - I disagree with your assessment of Jeffrey Lurie. The Eagles have had more trips to the playoffs under Lurie than without, and his first big hire was Andy Reid as coach. 14 years in one spot in the NFL is an eternity, and that reflects on the owner. Under Lurie's tutelage, the Eagles have become relevant again.

    Posted on January 3, 2013 - 02:46 AM #
  20. If he can find the cajones to stay another year, the opportunities could be even better with the Cowboys and Jets possibly shedding their coaches. Also keep in mind that if NCAA sanctions are not uber punitive, many experts predict Kelly should have have his best Duck team ever and a BCS championship. Hopefully Chip will remember Jerry Glanvilles famous answer to the question about the NFL acronym....."Not For Long."

    Posted on January 3, 2013 - 08:25 AM #
  21. duxrule

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    Carolina is also a possibility, with Ron Rivera on thin ice. I'm sure that Chip would love to get his hands on Cam Newton. The Dallas job is a black hole as long as Jerry Jones is alive, and the Yets job is also a Kobayashi Maru/No-win scenario. Kelly will avoid those like the plague.

    Posted on January 3, 2013 - 08:30 AM #
  22. warner

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    I hope for his sake Chip stays. The NFL is such a meat grinder for coaches, you normally don't get much of a chance to prove yourself, especially if you are trying to be even slightly different. Chip would need time to fully implement his "system". NFL has no patience.

    Posted on January 3, 2013 - 12:39 PM #
  23. Brianl

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    Alan - Dux has it spot-on. The Jets job is a circus; that entire organization is one giant dysfunctional family, and I can't see Chip going to a place where he can't even hire his own assistant coaches, much less not have ANY personnel say, like Dallas. Jerry Jones is the Judge, Jury and Executioner down there.

    Posted on January 3, 2013 - 06:21 PM #
  24. NoParty

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    DUX said>>>
    Carolina is also a possibility, with Ron Rivera on thin ice. I'm sure that Chip would love to get his hands on Cam Newton.

    Now there is a better fit for his offense.

    Posted on January 3, 2013 - 09:43 PM #
  25. paulwalker

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    Sources say Kelly will interview with three teams tomorrow, or over the weekend. Does anyone really think he will stay? Three interviews usually mean you are looking for a new gig. But, who knows?

    I don't think it is too early to start the speculation game of the next Duck coach. Is it offensive coordinator, Mark Helfrich? Or would they try to bring in a big name? Their history would favor Mark. We shall see, should be interesting over the next several days.

    Posted on January 3, 2013 - 10:37 PM #
  26. duxrule

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    Reports are out there that Helfrich has already been named as the heir apparent, but there's also a stickler with the requirement to interview minority candidates before making a hire.

    Posted on January 4, 2013 - 07:44 AM #
  27. They could just interview the two black assistant coaches they have on staff to save the time of flying in someone else.

    Posted on January 4, 2013 - 12:36 PM #
  28. You can't believe everything you read but....

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/browns-set-interview-kelly-153353750--nfl.html

    Posted on January 5, 2013 - 07:54 AM #
  29. john72ss

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    now the news says he may not leave oregon! who could blame him after all he makes 3.5 MILLION a year! does anyone see a problem here? i mean come on he works for half a year and makes that kind of money? no wonder college tuitions are going up!

    Posted on January 6, 2013 - 07:24 PM #
  30. paulwalker

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    Yeah, I heard a report today the Browns talks broke down. No deal.

    However, Philly is still out there. We shall see.

    Go Seahwawks!

    BTW, both head coaches in the NFL and College work year 'round.

    Posted on January 6, 2013 - 07:33 PM #
  31. john72ss

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    what would a football coach do in the spring and summer? ok, late summer there practice and pre season, but for at least 6 months? what?

    Posted on January 6, 2013 - 07:38 PM #
  32. duxrule

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    John, virtually none of CK's salary, or any of the football coaches, for that matter, comes from state dollars. The UO football program is almost entirely funded from outside the state system. What does a football coach do year-round? A lot. There's recruiting, staff development, spring practice, and a bunch of other stuff. At the FBS level, football is definitely full-time, year-round.

    Posted on January 6, 2013 - 08:25 PM #
  33. john72ss

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    thanks dux, i thought the salary they paid players and coaches came from the college itself.

    Posted on January 6, 2013 - 08:45 PM #
  34. Vitalogy

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    Reports say Chip is staying at UO. Good!

    Posted on January 6, 2013 - 08:58 PM #
  35. duxrule

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    Clownzano's column is a hoot this morning, as he tries to wipe off his egg bath while chokeing down a heapin' helpin' of cold crow. What a maroon.

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 06:44 AM #
  36. A well run football program can actually make a profit. Nebraska makes so much money from football that it helps support other sports programs that don't produce as much income.

    The football program has funded a bunch of incredible sports facilities at Lincoln.

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 07:46 AM #
  37. Brianl

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    Deane - for literally almost every single FBS program, the profits from football pretty much singlehandedly pay for all the other programs.

    Even with Title IX and the non-revenue programs, football and men's basketball pay the bills. Some schools are exceptions; schools like UConn and Tennessee have revenue-generating, heritage lady's basketball programs, for example, that add to it.

    Nebraska is a HUGE football program, and I bet it does do very well financially.

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 08:31 AM #
  38. Nebraska has a record of something like 350 sell out games in a row. Almost unbelievable.

    They will have the stadium enlarged for next season with 6000 new seats and some additional high priced sky boxes. Total seating will be something like 95,000.

    The Nebraska move to the Big 10 won't hurt the TV revenues either.

    I guess there is an advantage to having nothing else to focus on.

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 08:35 AM #
  39. Brianl

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    Nebraska benefited hugely from moving to the Big 10. They have a network like the Pac-12 Network, and the programs share the revenue evenly. They left the Big 12, where Texas and, to a lesser extent, Oklahoma took the vast majority of the revenue, leaving the table scraps for everyone else. That's a lot of why Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri and Texas A&M bolted for other conferences - they got a lot more $$$ and a level playing field within the conference they went to.

    Without the move to the Big 10 and the increased revenue, there's a good chance that Memorial Stadium wouldn't be getting the facelift and expansion. The same thing is happening across the Pac-12. Washington State was able to pay Mike Leach to be our coach, at a cost four times what Paul Wulff made, and Phase IV of the Martin Stadium expansion is a go, adding seats, more luxury suites and completely new football and athletic facilities, mostly because of the increased revenue from the addition of Utah and Colorado to the conference, and the Pac-12 Network. Husky Stadium in Seattle is getting completely rebuilt, and some money from those same sources is footing the bill.

    I love the passion that programs in the Midwest and South have. There are very few programs out here that have that. Oregon is one of them.

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 08:47 AM #
  40. duxrule

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    We were just talking about it here at the station this morning...Does anyone outside of Alabama or South Bend give a fig about tonight's game?

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 09:02 AM #
  41. Brianl

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    There's a lot of national Notre Dame fans, Dux, and Alabama has a good following.

    So, yes.

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 02:34 PM #
  42. paulwalker

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    35-0 AL in the third. Notre Dame has proven it was a very lucky Irish crew this year. Close games. A #1 vs #2 should never be this much of a blow-out. Time to re-visit the BCS formula again? Or have changes already been made for future years, not sure. I'm certain Oregon could have beaten the Irish tonight.

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 08:37 PM #
  43. Vitalogy

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    Notre Dame sucks. This was totally predictable. The two best teams this year were UO and Alabama, and if a playoff existed, we'd have a better title game.

    Meanwhile, alter boys nationwide are on high alert.

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 08:53 PM #
  44. Brianl

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    Paul - starting in 2014, it will be a four-team playoff.

    Of course, the computers and a panel of pencil-pushers will determine the four teams.

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 08:54 PM #
  45. skeptical

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    maroon?

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 09:00 PM #
  46. edust1958

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    ESPN stated the Kelly is staying where he is... skipping NFL...

    Was watching that dismal BCS game... all hyped up here because of the Hawaiians playing on Notre Dame...

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 09:10 PM #
  47. NoParty

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    The Nebraska move to the Big 10 won't hurt the TV revenues either.

    Just their won lose record

    Posted on January 7, 2013 - 10:28 PM #
  48. duxrule

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    "maroon?"

    Have you never seen a Bugs Bunny cartoon?

    Given the dismal state of affairs in how last night's "championship" turned out, I can now see why the media runup basically evaporated to nothing. I sure would have been pissed if my spots were scheduled for the second half. It would be interesting to see the hour-by-hour ratings on this. I quit watching mid-way through the first-quarter, then changed the channel at half-time. I'm certain that I was not alone.

    Posted on January 8, 2013 - 06:55 AM #

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