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  1. This from All Access:

    OREGON PUBLIC BROADCASTING has applied to the FCC for reinstatement and an extension of the Silent STA for KHRV/HOOD RIVER, OR. The station is being moved and OPB says it did not note the AUGUST 24th expiration for the STA, which it inherited when it bought the station.

    Posted on September 23, 2010 - 08:06 PM #
  2. semoochie

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    The digital LPTV on channel 26 at Mt. Scott has applied to increase power from 6 to 15KW.

    Posted on September 27, 2010 - 12:47 PM #
  3. Notalent

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    An interesting look at the current state of HD radio on AM and some new developments too.

    http://www.radioworld.com/article/105898

    Posted on September 29, 2010 - 04:54 PM #
  4. Can we finally just give up on HD radio. The only people who care are radio engineers, managers and radio "groupies", and the guys who sell transmitters (Yeah, I am looking at you Harris, BE, Continental.. etc.)

    It doesn't work anywhere:

    http://blogs.rnw.nl/medianetwork/new-book-predicts-failure-of-dab-digital-radio

    Even if everyone bought an HD radio, what "different" content is available. What a waste of money and resources. Just focus on making your analog signal count and give up on the fail.

    Posted on September 29, 2010 - 08:00 PM #
  5. Pat

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    I enjoy my HD radios. I get a Smooth Jazz station, Blues Station, Sports, Comedy, all commercial free (except sports). The coverage is good, even when I travel to Salem.
    The average person doesn't know what HD is or how it works. The only way it will get into the general public is if the FCC gets a backbone and makes it mandatory in all new FM radios.
    Remember when the FCC flip flopped about which system to use for AM stereo? Then they left it to the market place, and of course it failed. The average person did not know one system from the other.
    If HD dies, you can thank the FCC.

    Posted on September 29, 2010 - 09:00 PM #
  6. semoochie

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    HD will not fail but rather, continue to be integrated into emerging technologies. That was the plan, all along. DAB is not HD Radio. It's satellite fed and is in no way, hybrid.

    Posted on September 29, 2010 - 09:19 PM #
  7. semoochie

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    KNRQ's application to change COL to Aloha, Class to C1 and power to 10KW was moved to the FCC's blocked list, under the heading "rulemaking hold", as mentioned awhile back. The latter probably has to do with a series of allotment changes requested by the applicant. They have just modified that application but I have as yet been unable to find out anything about it.

    Posted on September 30, 2010 - 09:13 PM #
  8. This seemed the best thread to put this on. I've never seen "it" from this perspective.

    http://video.yahoo.com/watch/8244494/21915033

    Posted on October 6, 2010 - 08:56 PM #
  9. jr_tech

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    Oh my! I think that I am going to be sick!

    Posted on October 6, 2010 - 10:07 PM #
  10. semoochie

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    The application for the 104.5 translator to increase power to nearly 100 watts has been granted. A similar applications for 102.3 is still waiting in the wings. The more I think about it, the more I think EMF might take over the 96.3 frequency. They already have a presence on it and if it can't get past being a directional Class C3, it might just end up that way. Of course, it would have to be changed to noncommercial operation.

    Posted on October 7, 2010 - 01:51 AM #
  11. Jr. Tech- Gave me the heebie jeebies watching that video. The commentator was just easy going about the fact the tech guy was nearly 1800 feet up!!!

    Posted on October 7, 2010 - 08:15 AM #
  12. Andy_brown

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    If you drop a wrench from that height, it will penetrate the hood and motor of a parked vehicle.

    Posted on October 7, 2010 - 11:50 AM #
  13. My apologies if someone else has posted this and I've missed it, but Maupin (pop. 411) will not be getting a 50,000 watt C2, as I originally reported in Dec. 2008

    Radio Maupin?: On Nov. 28, Maupin Broadcasting Company filed an application with the Federal Communications Commission seeking authority to construct a new Class C2 50,000 watt FM station at 96.7 mHz. The antenna would be located at 15 meters (roughly 50 feet) above ground level.
    Harry Champlin is listed as the sole proprietor of Maupin Broadcasting Company.
    According to a 2007 FCC filing, Champlin owns Chisolm Trail Broadcasting, based in Enid, Okla.
    Chisolm Trail owns a pair of AM stations in Enid: which both feature a sports talk format: KCKC carries ESPN and the St. Louis Cardinals; KFXY has Fox Sports and the Kansas City Royals .
    The company also owns KNID, an FM country station which carries the Oklahoma State Cowboys Mr. Champlin personally also owns Champlin Broadcasting, Inc. which owns KQOB FM, in North Enid which plays an adult contemporary variety mix known as the "Bob" format.
    No information yet on proposed call letters or format.

    Maupin's population, in the 2000 census was 411.

    Not only did they withdraw, but the Commission deleted the channel from the table of allotments as seen here from back in June.

    Posted on November 6, 2010 - 08:31 PM #
  14. There is now an allotment for a C1 at 96.5 in Madras, which will replace KWLZ.

    Posted on November 7, 2010 - 04:40 AM #
  15. This from Kent Randles:

    KCBZ Cannon Beach OR FM BLH-20060517AAN 235 C3 N 45° 57' 08.0" W 123° 56' 14.0" License 299 118 117 110
    Assigned Call Sign of "KQCB-FM" (was "KCBZ") Licensee: Calcomm Stations Oregon LLC; New or modified call signs assigned

    Posted on November 12, 2010 - 06:04 PM #
  16. I wonder why Seaside's 94.9 changed their calls to KQCB. The website doesn't show any changes in format.

    http://www.musicmatters949.com

    Posted on November 15, 2010 - 06:22 AM #
  17. semoochie

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    Most likely, someone wanted their call letters.

    Posted on November 15, 2010 - 12:50 PM #
  18. Broadway

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    Saw this online about the worlds tallest tower now being built--
    http://www.tokyo-skytree.jp/english/

    Posted on November 24, 2010 - 01:12 PM #
  19. semoochie

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    Awhile back, there were applications granted for translators on 102.3 and 104.5 for nearly 100 watts on each. The one for 102.3 specified KMHD as the main station and there was speculation that it might be the HD2 that would be rebroadcast. That permit has since been canceled and in its place, is a new application for the same facilities but the station to be rebroadcast is now KEX!

    Posted on November 25, 2010 - 03:05 AM #
  20. This is interesting news! I imagine they'll move 102.3 to the Skyline Tower, unless KEX also takes over the 104.5 translator.

    Posted on November 25, 2010 - 06:43 AM #
  21. Pat

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    This is great news, only I wish it was KXL that was on FM.

    Posted on November 25, 2010 - 09:10 AM #
  22. DarkStar

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    So why does Way-FM have an interest in translating stations like KMHD or KEX? Is it intended to be a placeholder for one of their stations?

    Posted on November 25, 2010 - 11:38 AM #
  23. Notalent

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    Probably for the money.

    Posted on November 25, 2010 - 11:45 AM #
  24. jr_tech

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    How would Way get a signal to these translators anyway?... Because 102.3 and 104.5 are outside of the non-com end of the band, they can't be fed from sat. From the Way website, it appears that their closest station for off-the-air feed is in Spokane, not much help there! Looks to me that they have a couple of CPs that they can't use.

    Posted on November 25, 2010 - 01:25 PM #
  25. semoochie

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    If they want to feed Mt. Scott from KEX, it shouldn't be too difficult.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 01:04 AM #
  26. jr_tech

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    "If they want to feed Mt. Scott from KEX, it shouldn't be too difficult."

    LOL!

    But since WAY-FM sold 90.3 (KWYQ) longview-Kelso to EMF (now KLWO) it appears that the Portland translators are "orphans" that can't be fed off-the-air with WAY-FM programming*.... So is KEX a "placeholder" until WAY-FM can put something else in place, or have they given up in Portland?

    *doubt if they can DX the Spokane WAY-FM station.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 12:43 PM #
  27. semoochie

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    For some reason, I thought Way-FM sold both translators to EMF but I can't find anything about it. Plans were to rebroadcast KMHD on 104.5 also. Perhaps, either they just wanted to split them up or we haven't seen the other application yet.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 02:50 PM #
  28. Progress on KSLC-FM's tower/power upgrade/relocation. Everyone wins...89.9 and 90.3.. Has the switch been thrown yet??!!

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=328201&id=64812134907&fbid=10150119977749908

    Posted on November 28, 2010 - 08:33 PM #
  29. Re: WAY-FM

    Can't they just use a "satellitor" arrangement like Family Radio, and many other religious non-comms?

    Posted on November 28, 2010 - 08:36 PM #
  30. jr_tech

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    As I said above:

    "Because 102.3 and 104.5 are outside of the non-com end of the band, they can't be fed from sat"

    This is a FCC regulation... they can feed translators in the non-com end of the band (up to 91.9) from sat, but translators above that frequency must be fed off-the-air. Many times in a remote state, they will set up a non-com band "hub" (fed from sat) then feed several com band translators from the "hub" and perhaps a "daisy chain" arrangement.

    Posted on November 28, 2010 - 09:26 PM #
  31. WAY-FM could possibly lease an HD2 or HD3 channel on a local station and feed the translators that way. Clear channel leased out a subchannel on WMXD in Detroit to EMF so that K-Love could feed their translators there. However, I have a feeling that if WAY-FM had a desire to stay in Portland, they would not have sold 90.3 in Longview. That was the station they were feeding to the translators before.

    Posted on November 28, 2010 - 10:23 PM #
  32. In these kinds of religious setups, as broadcasters you stay in areas where donations can pay the electric bill and other maintenance at least. When this doesn't happen, other stations in the chain end up picking up the tab. Longview & Portland were hit hard by the recession aka depression and most likely were no longer cost efficient.

    Posted on November 28, 2010 - 10:39 PM #
  33. Here a perfect example of what's reported almost everyday in Religious radio, however this is a bit larger than most reports. From todays All Access:

    In Silent STA filings, HORIZON CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP has asked for Silent STAs for K251AW/VERNON, TX; K254BN/WEST ODESSA, TX; K262BU/UNIONVILLE, MO; K283AJ/SNYDER, TX; K266BH/SHERIDAN, AR; K242AZ/SEARCY, AR; and K233BM/ABILENE, TX. The licensee says that "there are inadequate financial resources to keep the stations operating" while it is in the process of "dismantling its network of FM stations" and selling them off.

    Posted on November 29, 2010 - 07:56 AM #
  34. e_dawg

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    Hello, I would like to know when are KNRQ and KWLZ CP's expires?

    Posted on November 29, 2010 - 07:39 PM #
  35. Andy_brown

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    http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/fmq.html

    Posted on November 29, 2010 - 08:31 PM #
  36. KNRQ's CP expires on 1/16/2013
    KWLZ's CP expires on 8/25/2011

    Regarding the WAY-FM translators, the WAY-FM website claims that they are coming to 104.5 this spring. It doesn't mention 102.3.

    Posted on December 1, 2010 - 10:05 PM #
  37. semoochie

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    For whatever reason, KXPC has applied to move in with the other Corvallis based FM transmitters and reduce to a Class C0, 85KW @ 334 meters HAAT.

    Posted on December 3, 2010 - 11:48 PM #
  38. Needlessly downgrading 103.7 to a C0? That's pure stupidity! The KDUK/KFLY site would be the ideal location!

    Posted on December 4, 2010 - 02:43 AM #
  39. semoochie

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    Since they aren't limited to a certain amount of stations, this actually makes sense. This way, they can cover the valley with a strong signal and use another frequency or frequencies for Eugene.

    Posted on December 4, 2010 - 09:21 AM #
  40. semoochie

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    I keep forgetting to mention that the 107.1 translator is now rebroadcasting KMHD-HD2, instead of KQAC.

    Posted on December 9, 2010 - 11:24 PM #
  41. jr_tech

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    KZME?

    http://www.kzme.fm/listen-now/

    Posted on December 10, 2010 - 11:13 AM #
  42. DarkStar

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    Well, I guess when your CP is expiring in 5 months and building your studio is running 3 months behind schedule you look for opportunities wherever you can find them!

    Personally I think this is a perfect use for an HD2 station and it's great that they can feed their translator with that signal.

    Posted on December 10, 2010 - 11:28 AM #
  43. jr_tech

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    Yep, CP expires 05/06/2011.... might stop snowing on Mt. Hood by then, hope the transmitter facility is already completed or nearly so.

    http://maps.google.com/?q=http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/contourplot.kml?gmap=2%26appid=1213888%26call=KZME%26freq=91.1%26contour=60%26city=BRIGHTWOOD%26state=OR

    Posted on December 10, 2010 - 12:24 PM #
  44. DarkStar

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    Wow, when did the FCC switch over to the KML overlays for Google Maps! That's awesome!

    Posted on December 10, 2010 - 12:57 PM #
  45. Andy_brown

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    About 4 or 5 years ago, I think. They stopped doing the plot on Tiger Maps about two years ago, approx.

    Remember, if you start playing with Google Maps and FCC co-ordinates, Google Map's are NAD83(WGS84)
    and the FCC is still mired in NAD27. If accuracy is important you must convert FCC coordinates to NAD83.
    If you are more in a hurry and don't care about accuracy, you can plug in NAD27 and it will put you approximately where the point is, although in a cluster of towers on a hill top this will not help you pin point which tower/antenna you are looking for.

    You can set google earth to accept degrees minutes seconds or convert to decimal.

    http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/DDDMMSS-decimal.html

    http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/nadcon.prl

    Posted on December 10, 2010 - 01:27 PM #
  46. semoochie

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    KKSN 910 has applied to modify its construction permit by increasing daytime power to 3.3KW. Nighttime remains at 4.3KW.

    Posted on December 17, 2010 - 02:15 AM #
  47. jr_tech

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    New 2012 Towers thread here:

    http://feedback.pdxradio.com/topic/towers-amp-such-2012

    Posted on April 13, 2012 - 06:33 PM #

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