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  1. semoochie

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    I thought this thread was getting a little out of hand so will try to renew it yearly. Unfortunately, I have nothing to add at this time.

    Posted on January 1, 2012 - 04:13 AM #
  2. semoochie

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    I just got an email from Ron Hudson and he seems to think the 1150 towers are gone! I thought there was still one left. Can anyone confirm this?

    Posted on January 2, 2012 - 04:45 PM #
  3. Broadway

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    Were the towers lit?

    Posted on January 2, 2012 - 07:05 PM #
  4. Andy_brown

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    "Were the towers lit?"

    Dunno. How much did they have to drink Saturday night?

    Posted on January 2, 2012 - 09:27 PM #
  5. semoochie

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    They used to all be lit. I don't know about now.

    Posted on January 2, 2012 - 10:36 PM #
  6. The last tower is still standing, but it hasn't been lit since they were taken off the air by vandals. It begs the question: In theory how long would it REALLY take to come up with a 5kw transmitter tuned to 1150 to get back on the air?

    Since Bustos has run 1520 on a STA, at reduced power and out of parameters, for six plus years, they don't ever appear to be in any hurry in these situations. Reminds me of when KAAR tore down their east county towers while under the "volcano" STA.

    Posted on January 3, 2012 - 08:32 PM #
  7. semoochie

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    OK, it looks like Tower #1 is still there but unlit. I would think the FAA would have a big problem with that! It's a little hazy so I can't be sure. They could have cut it down to 199 feet and avoided the entire tower lighting requirement.

    Posted on January 3, 2012 - 09:45 PM #
  8. Andy_brown

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    Actually, Semoochie, I believe they are in direct violation of their STA.

    The station's silent status does not suspend the licensee's obligation to comply with all other relevant Commission rules, including the filing, when appropriate, of applications for renewal of broadcast license. Finally, we note that it is imperative to the safety of air navigation that any prescribed painting and illumination of the station's tower shall be maintained until removed. {emphasis added}
    See 47 C.F.R. § 17.6 and 73.1740(a)(4).

    See http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getimportletter_exh.cgi?import_letter_id=29931

    Posted on January 3, 2012 - 10:00 PM #
  9. semoochie

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    So do I but I didn't want to say it. Of course, we could question whether or not there were really any vandals at all!

    Posted on January 3, 2012 - 10:24 PM #
  10. jr_tech

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    And I think there is *still* a question about legal operation of their translator on 93.5.

    Posted on January 3, 2012 - 10:41 PM #
  11. ???

    FM STATION APPLICATIONS FOR LICENSE TO COVER PETITION FOR RECONSIDERATION
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    OR BLED-20031022AAU DKRRC 66303 THE REED INSTITUTE Lic. to cover
    E 97.9 MHZ PORTLAND, OR
    License cancelled and callsign
    deleted 11/29/2011 per Licensee's
    request - no letter sent

    Petition for Reconsideration
    Filed 12/27/2011 by The Reed
    Institue

    Posted on January 5, 2012 - 11:00 AM #
  12. So...KRRC requested to have their license deleted, and then changed their mind later? It stated on their website that they decided that running an FM station was too expensive, and that they were going online-only.

    Posted on January 5, 2012 - 11:20 AM #
  13. "And I think there is *still* a question about legal operation of their translator on 93.5. "

    Yeah, especially since the FCC still believes (according to CDBS) that 93.5 is translating KGDD 1520, which it is clearly NOT.

    Posted on January 5, 2012 - 11:22 AM #
  14. jr_tech

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    From the most recent K228EU (93.5) application* (2/22/11) that I can find on the FCC site:

    Exhibit 3
    Description: CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES

    THE TECHNICAL FACILITY WAS CONSTRUCTED AS AUTHORIZED IN THE THE UNDERLYING CONSTRUCTION PERMIT.

    OF NOTE, THE PRIMARY STATION FOR THE TRANSLATOR FACILITY HAS BEEN CHANGED FROM THAT NOTED IN THE UNDERLYING CONSTRUCTION PERMIT.
    STATION KGDD(AM) OREGON CTIY, ORGON WAS SPECIFIED ON THE ORIGINAL APPLICTION AND IN THE CONSTRUCTION PERMIT; STATION KLPM(AM) PORTLAND OREGON WITH FACILITY ID 71752 IS THE BEING REBROADCAST ON THE FM TRANSALTOR STATION. A MAP DEMONSTRATING COMPLIANCE IS ATTACHED.

    KLPM-AM?

    * http://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/app_list.pl?Facility_id=87066

    Posted on January 5, 2012 - 01:24 PM #
  15. semoochie

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    Those were 1150's call letters, at the time of the application.

    Posted on January 5, 2012 - 08:37 PM #
  16. semoochie

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    I was looking for a mid-valley thread but couldn't find one. KGAL 1580 has applied to increase daytime power to 7.5KW, with a different directional pattern, than the one currently in use.

    Posted on January 5, 2012 - 10:02 PM #
  17. Alfredo_T

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    KLPM was supposed to go with the monicker "La Paloma" (The Dove), which is what 1150 called itself when it broadcast a Spanish language Christian format.

    One of the most annoyingly memorable things I ever heard on La Paloma was a ska song explaining how Jesus is more powerful than various popular comic book superheroes:

    Jesús es mi superhéroe
    vuela más alto que superman
    Jesús es mi superhéroe
    por siempre él me protegerá
    Jesús es mi superhéroe
    él es más fuerte que spiderman
    Jesús es mi superhéroe
    a todo el mundo él quiere salvar

    Posted on January 6, 2012 - 02:26 PM #
  18. semoochie

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    The next thing you know, they'll be saying that he's more popular than the Beatles!

    Posted on January 6, 2012 - 08:43 PM #
  19. semoochie

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    KXXO 96.1 Olympia has amended its application, taking care of various issues. This should enable their application to be granted, clearing the way for 96.3's in West Linn.

    Posted on January 21, 2012 - 11:15 AM #
  20. W7PAT

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    I'm sure now KXXO will have to wait until the snow melts in the spring before making the big move.

    Posted on January 21, 2012 - 01:26 PM #
  21. semoochie

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    There may be further changes but this should at least get them a construction permit. I noticed that it's barely a Class C whereas the previous application was a full C and closer to Canada. That could be because any more signal would erode 96.3's coverage.

    Posted on January 21, 2012 - 02:27 PM #
  22. Combined Communications is bringing a new signal to Central Oregon; 107.7 KWXS, a C2 on Powell Butte. The format could be Adult Hits or Active Rock, as those are the biggest format holes in the market.

    Posted on January 22, 2012 - 01:53 AM #
  23. semoochie

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    That almost sounds like it could be a satellite of KWAX although I thought Bend already had one.

    Posted on January 22, 2012 - 03:21 AM #
  24. There is 88.5 KWBX, Redmond, which has a translator in Bend at 98.9.

    Posted on January 22, 2012 - 01:14 PM #
  25. Alfredo_T

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    Is there any update at all on either of these dark radio stations:

    • 660kHz (Off air due to bankruptcy)
    • 1150kHz (Off air due to vandalism)

    I will start by asking, are the towers still up?

    Posted on January 23, 2012 - 10:57 AM #
  26. semoochie

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    There was discussion about 1150 a couple of weeks ago. The TOWER is still up and there's some thought of diplexing with another station. If they could get into Oregon, it would help a lot with being overpowered by KEX.

    Posted on January 24, 2012 - 12:34 AM #
  27. Alfredo_T

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    I forgot about another dark radio station--KQRZ-LP. In June of 2011, news was posted here that what remained of Heritage Christian School sold the KQRZ-LP license to Valley Catholic Radio. See http://feedback.pdxradio.com/topic/kqrz-lp-hillsboro-sold-to-valley-catholic-radio#post-79165

    Posted on January 25, 2012 - 12:03 AM #
  28. Looks like they are waiting for the FCC to approve a Tx site change.

    Posted on January 25, 2012 - 12:22 AM #
  29. So what is a silent 5kw Daytimer, licensed to PDX, with only the Antenna system, FCC license and valid land lease as assets worth in today's market?

    Posted on January 27, 2012 - 08:09 AM #
  30. The old 910 KISN towers got demolished today.

    http://youtu.be/0lnH8GI5sRQ

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 12:49 AM #
  31. So glad you captured this event for radio posterity but very sad for me to watch.

    Kent: Can you find out the date when they tear down the KISN transmitter building where Dave Stone did the last Kisn broadcast?

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 01:28 AM #
  32. To quote Charlie Brown: "AAAUUUGGGHHH!!!"

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 01:45 AM #
  33. msndrspdx

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    Kent's YouTube link to the footage of yesterday's removal of the KISN Mighty 91 towers has also been posted to the KISN Goodguys Facebook page, and it's generated several reponses there already this morning...

    http://www.facebook.com/KISNGoodGuys

    The transmitter gear was moved out of the building there and hauled intact to Albany last year, wasn't it?

    Best, M.

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 08:31 AM #
  34. This was under "BROADCAST APPLICATIONS" 'sted of "...ACTIONS"

    FM STATION APPLICATIONS FOR LICENSE TO COVER APPLICATION REINSTATED
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    OR BLED-20031022AAU KRRC 66303 THE REED INSTITUTE Lic. to cover
    E 97.9 MHZ PORTLAND, OR
    Petition for Reconsideration
    granted, license reinstated,
    and call sign reinstated,
    1/25/12. No letter sent.

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 10:34 AM #
  35. Alfredo_T

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    A piece of Portland history is sent off to the scrap heap...

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 10:57 AM #
  36. jr_tech

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    It looks as if the license is indeed reinstated:

    http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=66303

    Anybody hearing them yet? ( or perhaps "normal" KRRC dead air ?)

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 11:09 AM #
  37. Andy_brown

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    I don't hear anything here in Westmoreland (about one mile away from Reed).
    Then again, I don't even have a piece of wire hangin' off the back of my HK380i.
    I will listen for it next time in the car where I can dial up 97.9 exactly.

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 12:32 PM #
  38. DarkStar

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    Well, hopefully this marks a new (and better) chapter for KRRC. It's tough with 8.2 watts, but by leveraging streaming audio could end up being pretty cool.

    [Edit: The decimal makes a difference! ]

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 04:15 PM #
  39. jr_tech

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    Check the decimal point... it's even tougher with 8.2 Watts!

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 04:21 PM #
  40. DarkStar

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    Yep, the decimal makes a big difference. I need to work on my 10-key.

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 04:27 PM #
  41. Alfredo_T

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    Lewis & Clark's student station "KLC" (which was an unlicensed campus-only broadcast at 104.1 MHz) became an Internet only station when KFIS signed on the 104.1 frequency. I wonder, did that transition help them as an organization? I realize that theoretically, being on the Internet allows alumni and fans to listen from anywhere in the world, but I wonder whether, in practice, a lot of people listen to the streams of college broadcasters.

    I will concede that for a student radio station, one advantage of only broadcasting on the Internet is that it is now possible for them to know roughly how many people listen to the station and when. Arbitron ratings books are generally out of reach for licensed over-the-air college stations and not applicable for college broadcasters without a license from the FCC.

    Posted on January 30, 2012 - 04:43 PM #
  42. DarkStar

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    I just found out that KRRC requested to reinstate their license in order to transfer it to a non-profit.

    My guess: KZME.

    Posted on January 31, 2012 - 01:01 PM #
  43. semoochie

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    OK, I'm really lost now! Why would anyone want a station with no service 3 blocks east of the transmitter site that must find a new frequency, when they'll be really lucky to get a third adjacency?

    Posted on January 31, 2012 - 09:20 PM #
  44. jr_tech

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    "My guess: KZME."

    Very wild guess department... KPSU?? House of Sound?? KISN??

    Posted on February 1, 2012 - 12:06 AM #
  45. DarkStar

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    I was figuring they were giving up on the Brightwood site and maybe they still needed a primary station license to keep the KZME calls.

    Posted on February 1, 2012 - 09:52 AM #
  46. I just found out that KRRC requested to reinstate their license in order to transfer it to a non-profit.
    Or perhaps when KNRQ moves in this is a way to get some sort of compensation for being displaced.

    ...maybe they still needed a primary station license to keep the KZME calls.
    They could still use "KZME" as slogan calls without a licensed station. Portland State's KPSU works the same way, the licensed KPSU is an FM station in Oklahoma.

    Posted on February 1, 2012 - 12:07 PM #
  47. DarkStar

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    I'll have to re-locate the FCC rule again, but you cannot use a callsign that may cause "confusion" about it being a licensed radio station. Generally this would be any 3 or 4 letters starting with K or W.

    I'm actually surprised that KPSU in Oklahoma hasn't ever filed a C&D with PSU in Portland, especially since the Oklahoma station is another college.

    Posted on February 1, 2012 - 12:13 PM #
  48. Andy_brown

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    § 73.3550 Requests for new or modified call sign assignments.

    http://tinyurl.com/83pe7d6

    (l) Users of nonlicensed, low-power devices operating under part 15 of this chapter may use whatever identification is currently desired, so long as propriety is observed and no confusion results with a station for which the FCC issues a license.

    Posted on February 1, 2012 - 12:46 PM #
  49. Alfredo_T

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    KRRC was a grandfathered Class-D FM station. Do the FCC rules permit the reinstatement or transfer of such a license?

    Posted on February 1, 2012 - 02:18 PM #
  50. Andy_brown

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    The Commission’s policy regarding reinstatement procedures in the Wireless Radio Services is as
    follows: Renewal applications that are filed up to thirty days after the expiration date of the license will
    be granted nunc pro tunc if the application is otherwise sufficient under the Commission's Rules, but the
    licensee may be subject to an enforcement action for untimely filing and unauthorized operation during
    the time between the expiration of the license and the untimely renewal filing.10 Applicants who file
    renewal applications more than thirty days after the license expiration date may also request renewal of
    the license nunc pro tunc, but such requests will not be routinely granted, will be subject to stricter
    review, and also may be accompanied by enforcement action, including more significant fines or
    forfeitures.11 In determining whether to reinstate a license, we consider all of the facts and circumstances,
    including the length of the delay in filing, the reasons for the failure to timely file, the potential
    consequences to the public if the license should terminate, and the performance record of the licensee.12
    Taking into account all the facts and circumstances of the instant matter, including the specific factors set
    forth by the Commission, we conclude that FKEC’s Waiver Request should be denied.13
    Under the Commission’s rules, licensees must file renewal applications no later than the
    expiration date of the license for which renewal is sought.14 In fact, licenses automatically terminate upon
    the expiration date, unless a timely application for renewal is filed.15 Applicants may, however, file an
    application for renewal and request for waiver of the filing deadline if the renewal application is not filed
    in a timely manner. A waiver of the Commission’s rules may be granted where the applicant
    demonstrates that (1) the underlying purpose of the rule would not be served or would be in the public
    interest; or (2) in view of unique or unusual factual circumstances of the instant case, application of the
    rule would be inequitable, unduly burdensome or contrary to the public interest, or the applicant has no
    reasonable alternative.16

    ftp://ftp.fcc.gov/pub/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2011/db0816/DA-11-1406A1.txt

    § 73.865 Assignment and transfer of LPFM licenses.

    (a) Assignment/Transfer: No party may assign or transfer an LPFM license if:

    (1) Consideration promised or received exceeds the depreciated fair market value of the physical equipment and facilities; and/or

    (2) The transferee or assignee is incapable of satisfying all eligibility criteria that apply to a LPFM licensee.

    (b) A change in the name of an LPFM licensee where no change in ownership or control is involved may be accomplished by written notification by the licensee to the Commission.

    (c) Holding period: A license cannot be transferred or assigned for three years from the date of issue, and the licensee must operate the station during the three-year holding period.

    (d) No party may assign or transfer an LPFM construction permit at any time.

    (e) Transfers of control involving a sudden change of more than 50 percent of an LPFM's governing board shall not be deemed a substantial change in ownership or control, subject to the filing of an FCC Form 316.

    [73 FR 3216, Jan. 17, 2008]

    Posted on February 1, 2012 - 02:29 PM #

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