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Top 10 best and worst educated states and how they voted

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  • Started 1 year ago by Vitalogy
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  1. Vitalogy

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    Shocker! The top 10 educated states all voted blue. 9 out of 10 of the least educated states voted red.

    http://www.happyplace.com/19076/election-infographic-shows-most-educated-states-voted-for-obama

    Posted on November 9, 2012 - 09:55 PM #
  2. missing_kskd

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    No surprise.

    And that is where the "takers" live too. Correlate education level with net tax to the Federal government, and it's gonna be most, if not all, the same States.

    Posted on November 9, 2012 - 10:20 PM #
  3. I'd like to see the data used to come up with these comparisons.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 12:34 AM #
  4. Seems to me it's a race thing. Most of those educated States are primarily white.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 08:58 AM #
  5. Skybill9

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    This really doesn't mean too much. Just because you have a college degree doesn't make you smart.

    There are plenty of people that don't have college degrees that are very smart. And there are plenty of people that do have college degrees that aren't very smart.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 12:16 PM #
  6. missing_kskd

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    And there are plenty of people who don't have degrees that are dumb as fuck too.

    Where there is more college education, and higher wages, the trend is toward more realistic and beneficial policy support.

    Why?

    Because even the dumb ones that got college anyway are exposed to enough real facts and policy implications to understand how and why things affect them, which reduces the number of people who will vote against their own interests.

    Taker states, who have low education and low wage metrics are literally being subsidized by those giver states who get this all right more than wrong.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 12:32 PM #
  7. You'd think if they were so well educated, they'd know better how to vote.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 12:39 PM #
  8. missing_kskd

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    And they did!

    You see Deane, you've not made the case that Obama is a bad vote, nor have you made it for the Dems in general.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 01:11 PM #
  9. NoParty

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    LOL @ Deane.

    They learned and they voted that's why ROBme isn't in the White House....

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 01:20 PM #
  10. Skybill9

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    "You see Deane, you've not made the case that Obama is a bad vote..."

    Deanne doesn't need to. Obobo is plenty capable of that himself.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 03:09 PM #
  11. NoParty

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    In your opinion but the majority of Americans don't believe your way thank God!

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 03:12 PM #
  12. Skybill9

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    Only a slim majority, about 1.5%.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 05:20 PM #
  13. Andy_brown

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    Wrong.

    Try 2.7%. Dubya's re-election was less than that. His first term, he didn't even have a majority.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_popular_vote_margin

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/election-map-2012/president/

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 05:26 PM #
  14. Skybill9

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    Sorry, my math was wrong. It's still a slim margin.

    "(UPDATE (2): As of Noon on Friday, with nearly all votes in, Obama assuredly will win the popular vote, leading Romney by a count of 61,173,739 or 50.5% to 58,167,260 or 48.0%. At this point, a few final votes are being counted and then all that's left is for the results to be officially certified.)"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/who-won-the-popular-vote-2012_n_2087038.html

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 05:33 PM #
  15. Andy_brown

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    Slim in popular vote, but dubya's was slimmer. Electorally, it wasn't even close and that's how presidents are elected.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 05:52 PM #
  16. Andy_brown

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    As far as how people feel about a specific issue, presidential popular vote doesn't translate into a single issue. Lots of CONS voted for Dubya but didn't want to continue his nation building agenda. Lots of CONS voted for Mutt but didn't want to voucherize medicare.

    If you want to talk about a specific issue, general election votes don't mean squat.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 05:55 PM #
  17. Andy_brown

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    And not necessarily only to the negative.

    Lots of CONS didn't vote for Obama but do want the wealthy to pay a higher RATE of income tax.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 05:57 PM #
  18. NoParty

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    Only a slim majority, about 1.5%.

    A loss is a loss who cares by how much.

    Posted on November 10, 2012 - 06:51 PM #
  19. And off they slink again.

    Posted on November 12, 2012 - 10:55 AM #
  20. I'm very amused by this whole "builders" vs. "takers" claim. If you look at tax payments into the federal government, for the most part the "blue" states pay in more than they get back. It's the red states that are the "takers" getting more federal money than they pay into the system.

    Posted on November 12, 2012 - 11:33 AM #
  21. It would be amusing if the red states and their attendant media were pathologically acceptable of accepting that fact. As it stands, it's at best deeply hypocritical and at worst completely delusional.

    Things are rarely simple. Unless you live in Jesus Land. (A.K.A. Ye Ole Confederacy) Then, by virtue of living in an information vacuum, it appears totally simple.

    Posted on November 12, 2012 - 11:47 AM #
  22. Andy_brown

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    Dear Red States:

    We're ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we've
    decided we're leaving.

    We in California intend to form our own country and we're taking the other
    Blue States with us.

    In case you aren't aware that includes Hawaii, Oregon,
    Washington, Colorado, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, New York and the rest of the
    Northeast.

    We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to
    the people of the new country of The Enlightened States of America (E.S.A).

    To sum up briefly:
    You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.

    We get stem cell research and the best beaches.

    We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd
    Akin.

    We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand.

    We get* Intel* and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.

    We get Harvard (*Princeton, Penn, Haverford, Colgate, U of R)*,. You get
    Ole' Miss.

    We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs.

    You get Alabama.

    We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay
    their fair share.

    Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian
    Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single
    moms.

    With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the
    country's fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of
    the nation's fresh fruit, *95% of America's quality wines* (you can serve
    French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of the high
    tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all living redwoods,
    sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Harvard,
    Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

    With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans
    and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly
    100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists,
    virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University,
    Clemson and the University of Georgia.

    We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

    38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a
    whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty
    or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that Saddam was
    involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards believe you are people with
    higher morals then we lefties.

    We're taking the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico.

    Sincerely,

    Citizen of the Enlightened States of America

    Posted on November 12, 2012 - 12:03 PM #
  23. NoParty

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    I'm very amused by this whole "builders" vs. "takers" claim. If you look at tax payments into the federal government, for the most part the "blue" states pay in more than they get back. It's the red states that are the "takers" getting more federal money than they pay into the system.

    PLONK!

    Posted on November 12, 2012 - 01:58 PM #
  24. Ugh.

    Posted on November 12, 2012 - 03:21 PM #
  25. missing_kskd

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    Go Andy!

    Maybe we should sell 'em the weed, just to you know, help them cope.

    Posted on November 12, 2012 - 03:37 PM #

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