Should 'El Rushbo' (Limbaugh) be OFF the air now?(67 posts)
Posted on March 5, 2012 - 01:10 AM #
I'd like to see him get off the air the old fashioned way -- low ratings.
This isn't going to happen right away as Rush's fans are riled up and will tune in anyway, however, Rush is toxic for advertisers now so he'll have to somewhat "neuter" himself and dial back the hate to get the tweet/social media crowd off his back and hope advertisers come back. But he risks losing his audience with diluted rhetoric. He has 600 stations. I think 450 is the magic number. An embarrassing way for the man with talent on loan from God to go, though.
Perhaps he should save face and retire. Like today.
One thing for sure -- he ain't getting $50 million a year anymore.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 01:33 AM #
No, he should not be bullied off the air by the left.
Whatever mistake he made was small and forgivable. The overreaction and calls for his head are disproportionate to the offense, and Rush fans and the fair-minded are not so dumb as the elite think they are and can see through it.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 06:18 AM #
Hey numbnuts, isn't it Monday? Aren't you sticking to just religious-based posts for Lent?
You sad, sad little hypocrite.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 06:40 AM #
But I worship El Rushbo too.
No, you're right this time. I simply forgot. My bad. Thanks for the reminder dude.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 06:44 AM #
Perhaps you should take your Lent serious, for once, and leave us the hell alone. It'd be much appreciated.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 06:53 AM #
But Rush is the *Pope* of the Conservative Airways isnt he ?
So he could be in a " Lent free zone "Posted on March 5, 2012 - 09:59 AM #
I can't be the only one that is a little scared by this new cultural thought process that says "if a broadcaster says something offensive, he should be FIRED!". Of course, there are extreme cases where termination may be appropriate (Marconi on KNRK comes to mind). However, there are so many more cases where someone just said something stupid in a moment of passion or bad judgement. They should apologize and maybe be punished, but termination is extreme. It seems to me that pretty soon, if you say anything AT ALL that offends any group, you could be fired. That kind of "safe" radio sounds really dull and boring to me.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 10:29 AM #
I don't agree with this.
Just raise the cost of harmful and or expensive speech, and let them sort themselves out.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 11:06 AM #
I just wan to see his advertising revenues dry up. No physical violence. Just an old fashionedboycott.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 11:20 AM #
"It seems to me that pretty soon, if you say anything AT ALL that offends any group, you could be fired."
Welcome to the 21st Century. Part of the difference in this case, of course, is that the attack was more finely focused that "a group." Lush probably would have gotten away with it if he'd stuck to his regular "feminazis are sluts and prostitutes" blather, but this was personally directed at one identifiable person, who's also pretty much just an "average Jane" citizen. That's over the line in pretty much everyone's book.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 11:27 AM #
@marya136 >>>:I just wan to see his advertising revenues dry up. No physical violence. Just an old fashionedboycott."<<<
You won't live long enough to see even a wobble in the ad revenues. The waiting list will fill up those cancellation avails faster than Obama can think of a new way to raise taxes.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 11:29 AM #
"You won't live long enough to see even a wobble in the ad revenues. The waiting list will fill up those cancellation avails faster than Obama can think of a new way to raise taxes."
Then why did he cave, and why did he do it at warp speed? The one and only answer? This got into the pocketbook, quickly and deeply.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 11:31 AM #
Duxrule, the thinking you're displaying with that post is that of a simpleton. Rush takes in so much money that these temporary cancellations are a drop in the bucket.
He's far more interested in the public perception of his actions and he no doubt felt it most prudent to slow down the noise by apologizing quickly. Better quickly than later after a lot of furor.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 11:37 AM #
"Just raise the cost of harmful and or expensive speech, and let them sort themselves out."
How much more can you raise the cost of this? He's losing advertisers, which is a hit on his wallet. Rush should have the right to exercise his first amendment rights, and he has the right to face the consequences of what he chooses to say. I don't believe in censorship or regulating freedom of speech. People in our country should be able to say what they want and deal with the blowback. You have the right to say something dumb, and people have the right to think you're an idiot and either fire you or in this case, stop advertising or listening to you. Getting overly PC about it isn't the right thing to do.
Rush is a buffoon, but he's also an entertainer. What he said honestly wasn't much different from what he normally says. I think the liberals and the Obama administration in particular were looking for a way to take him down. When he directed his attack on one person in particular, they finally saw the opportunity to strike and strike they did. He's losing advertisers and I'm sure some viewers, but the uber religious, right winged tea partiers, which make up his biggest listenership, I'm sure aren't leaving, but instead are siding up with him and like him MORE than before.
Overall, as a strict moderate who doesn't have a dog in this fight, I could care less if Rush keeps his job or not. I care not to listen to his program and people who don't like him should just follow suit. At the same time, let the man drone on and tune him out. You feed his fire when you react, which is what he WANTS.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 11:55 AM #
"Let the marketplace decide."
Having said that, I need to mention that years ago, I heard Rush poke fun at Jewel and Julia "Butterfly" Hill on the air. The latter person was in the news but probably would not have fit the definition of a "public figure" that some on this board are using. The difference was that he mocked the alleged beliefs of these two people but did not go to the crude, personal level that he did with this college student/activist lady (who at 30 does not fit my definition of a "kid").Posted on March 5, 2012 - 12:06 PM #
You won't live long enough to see even a wobble in the ad revenues. The waiting list will fill up those cancellation avails faster than Obama can think of a new way to raise taxes.
Or how some CONer can get us into another SENSELESS war and get THOUSANDS of American men and women killed.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 12:06 PM #
Hey, how about put him on one station and bring on 599 LOCAL professional broadcasters who also have talent on loan from god (and no place to use that talent)Posted on March 5, 2012 - 12:41 PM #
Peter Gabriel has demanded that his music be pulled from Rush Limbaugh's radio show after learning that his 1986 hit "Sledgehammer" was played while the host launched into a tirade against Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke on Wednesday.
"Peter was appalled to learn that his music was linked to Rush Limbaugh's extraordinary attack on Sandra Fluke," says a statement on Gabriel's Facebook page. "It is obvious from anyone that knows Peter's work that he would never approve such a use. He has asked his representatives to make sure his music is withdrawn and especially from these unfair aggressive and ignorant comments."
Limbaugh has come under fire for calling Fluke, who testified at a Congressional hearing on contraception, a "slut" and a "prostitute." The program has lost eight sponsors in the wake of Limbaugh's attack.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 01:15 PM #
So, what ads DID run today?Posted on March 5, 2012 - 02:16 PM #
How much to raise the cost?
It costs what it costs. Really ugly speech is going to cost a lot. Sometimes it will matter more than others.
In general, the calls into convincing advertisers do that, and so does negative press.
In this case, it was pretty expensive! So then, everybody moves forward.
That's the dynamic. Seems simple to me.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 03:26 PM #
Duxrule, the thinking you're displaying with that post is that of a simpleton."
Takes one to know one. Pot, meet kettle.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 03:31 PM #
Should Limbaugh be OFF the air now?
Yes.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 05:24 PM #
Duxrule, the thinking you're displaying with that post is that of a simpleton.
HOLY CAT SHIT ON A STICK! You've got to be fucking kidding me right? Coming from you Deane that's a GD laugh riot.
WOW!Posted on March 5, 2012 - 07:15 PM #
Just read that WBEC Pittsfield Mass and KPUA Hilo Hawaii dropped Rush over 'Slutgate"
Not exactly a couple of powerhouses...and in mini markets...but nevertheless..Posted on March 5, 2012 - 07:44 PM #
Seems to me like he'd fit in better with the SDARS crowd (i.e. Howard & Pals) than the mediumwave crowd. Just sayin'.Posted on March 5, 2012 - 07:47 PM #
So in THIS situation with THIS broadcaster,
it's not ENTIRELY like the 'Nappy-Headed-Hos' with Imus, correct?Posted on March 6, 2012 - 01:37 AM #
Despite their horrible nature, it's quite rare to see these instances picked up by the establishment media. Conservatives apparently deserve to be slandered.
Liberal radio hate remains largely unchecked. Do Midwestern tornado victims deserve ridicule and scorn? "Progressive" talker Mike Malloy sure thinks so. Check out his rant from Friday's broadcast:Posted on March 6, 2012 - 08:47 AM #
Yes, MSNBC suspended him, rightly so and premeire should have suspended Rush.
BUT, the OUTRAGE from the left is pathetic. If women really cared, where was their outrage here?
So amusing.Posted on March 6, 2012 - 08:50 AM #
Both stations that dropped Limbaugh are in liberal bastions.
Surely they are getting calls from and responding to the rabid liberal busybodies around town who don't listen anyway.
Could you imagine a business owner fearing and pandering to people who are NOT his/her customers/listeners anyway?
Thats like boycotting a product you never used in the first place.
WOW!Posted on March 6, 2012 - 09:01 AM #
And you didn't link the lead up to that commentary why Dodger? (Because the source didn't either, but WHY is still relevant.)
It's important you know. There was no need to only take a piece of what LIMBAUGH said. He nailed it cold, served it up on a platter, no mistaking any of it. The piece you linked isn't complete Dodger, and that context changes things.
Would be an interesting conversation... perhaps on a different thread? You don't mean to wave hands and distract from the ugly mound of sound, now do you?
Of course not, right?
And Rush the victim here? LOL!! You can do way better Dodger. Seriously.Posted on March 6, 2012 - 09:02 AM #
This isn't about "those liberals" on the attack. LIMBAUGH is a foul person. Gross is probably one of the more precise words.
He's not some authority in these things either. Well, maybe the authority on shitty people and how they think. Propping them up as decent people pays very well, and everybody knows it.
This is about a three day tirade over political differences, taking it personal to a woman who did not warrant that treatment.
Invoking "conservatives" with LIMBAUGH as proxy is lame. "We are being persecuted" right? LOL!! (seriously, laugh, because it's laughable)
LIMBAUGH type conservatives get the shit they do, because they deserve it! Other people do not like it when LIMBAUGH type conservatives choose to devalue them or encourage the discrimination against them. What self respecting person would?
That is what this is all about. And that's a new term now. LIMBAUGH conservatives, you know, 23 percenters, racists, bigots and theocrats. Real conservatives, the ones that actually ARE respectable people, know better.
As for entertainment, this whole thing has been seriously entertaining! I absolutely love it when really first class asses take a coupla shots hard in the sack! Count me among the ones entertained.
Kind of like this behavior, seen here all the time:Posted on March 6, 2012 - 09:15 AM #
Say what you want, whatever YOU think about Limbaugh, you cannot deny there is a one way road in America now. If you are generally left in your persuasion, you will not be talked about (partly because no one listens) and if you are on the right you will be talked about (partly because as you have pointed out, 3 out of 4 listen to the right talkers).
Boycotts have never proved to be effective, when one drops, as in our station's case, 3 more jump on. We get stronger with every attempt to weaken us.
Kind of funny actually. What YOU consider offensive, others find amusing. What YOU find amusing, others find offensive.
Basically it comes down to freedom.....TURN THE FRICKIN DIAL dummy.
If you don't listen to Rush or Malloy or whomever, then what concern is it to you? I could care less what that dope Maher says, I don't view him. So, I have nothing to say about him.
Turn the channel. Move on, nothing to see or hear here.Posted on March 6, 2012 - 09:27 AM #
Context Dodger.Posted on March 6, 2012 - 09:29 AM #
"That is what this is all about. And that's a new term now. LIMBAUGH conservatives, you know, 23 percenters, racists, bigots and theocrats. Real conservatives, the ones that actually ARE respectable people, know better."
Ya, I remember the good old days of the Tea Party rallies when there were all those arrests, rapes, killings, diseases, broken store windows, injuries to horses....etc.....man those were good days....remember? Oh wait, sorry, I meant the 99%.
I have a new term for you MK: it's called Hypocrisy. It's running rampant in this country. Bigots? OWS. Rapists? OWS. Bigots? OWS. Hatred gone wild? OWS. I won't spoil your day with more.Posted on March 6, 2012 - 09:31 AM #
PS: Breaking News! Pat Robertson is a NUTJOB!
Context is: If I'm not mistaken by date stamp, PR spoke AFTER Malloy made his statements and are NOT related.
"Move on, nothing to see or hear here."
Good point. Never has been, never will be. You'll get none of my precious listening time. That being said, it still doesn't make Lush Limpdick any less of a self-centered, bloviating, officious, insulting and hypocritical waste of human flesh. As I said before, the problem with this was that it was a personal attack on an "average Jane." If he'd stuck his standard tripe of "feminazis are sluts and prostitutes," people would just say "ennh...Lush being Lush." Calling this woman out by name was completely over the line, and THAT is what has people up in arms.
"Can't back it up?"
I could use up all of Dan's bandwidth with video evidence if you'd like.....start with Daylight Disinfectant on Youtube and have fun.
Cheers to you too!Posted on March 6, 2012 - 09:35 AM #
I didn't say they were. Go and get the rest of the broadcast, Robertson was just a hint as to where Malloy was going with that. Not pretty mind you. I often don't like Malloy much. The edit you linked isn't complete, and that matters. Let's just say Malloy was highlighting ROBERTSON type conservatives.
Back on topic though, LIMBAUGH spent three days degrading a woman. Bet he had a stiffy the whole time too. That's what this is about, and he didn't apologize for doing it, just for his bad form. Interestingly, I don't think it's possible to do that three day rant and make sense in good form, but that's academic now, other than to highlight the non-apology apology for what it really is.Posted on March 6, 2012 - 09:38 AM #
Here's an opinion piece I read this morning.Posted on March 6, 2012 - 09:40 AM #
Well, that's Google's bandwidth, not Dan's. A few links isn't squat.
So, now it's hand waving toward OWS?
Go ahead, start a thread. You will lose on it big Dodger. Count on it.
https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/sec-panetta-get-rush-limbaugh-armed-forces-radio-now-no-tax-money-abusive-divisive-insulting/p439GWMmPosted on March 6, 2012 - 09:44 AM #
"Turn the freaking dial dummy."
"dummy" from you Dodger? That's laughable. Funny how a clown attempting to characterize me as "dummy" just doesn't pack a punch.
It's not about ME being offended. This is about basic social norms. If we don't push back on that shit LIMBAUGH said, on public airwaves no less, then we basically are saying it's ok to devalue women over political differences.
Doing that isn't ok. Framing it as some other shallow thing really only highlights what YOU think on that issue Dodger.
So what do you think? Is it OK to do what LIMBAUGH did?
How about the women in your life? Why don't you go take this tack with them? That would be entertaining for sure.Posted on March 6, 2012 - 09:50 AM #
This is going to sound like I am being facetious or something akin to that - but I'm not.
I DEFINITELY do not think Rush should be kicked off the air for this. I listen to him quite a bit and I would miss not knowing where some of my friends get their information. I may be a freeloader off of his station with regards to entertainment as I make sure I don't use any of his sponsors. But seriously, sometimes I appreciate having some insight to what others are thinking. It's like having Inspector Clouseau be a media liaison for The Republican Party. He says what they are thinking because he tells them what to think.
He and Glenn Beck and Lars (to whom I listen as well) just puke up all this stuff and before I listened, I was shocked to hear friends quote them. I was always confused about how they arrived at that opinion. Now that it is made clear what I can expect to hear about 6 hours after their respective shows, I can just silently go "Okay. You obviously heard that on the radio today. You've held that position since about 11:30 am today. You'll change your mind later. Now can we just enjoy our beer and talk about music?"
I miss the days when Broadway would quote The Onion as a source though. That was worth getting out of bed sometimes.
While entertaining, I do wonder why I can listen to it and not immediately go out and parrot what I've heard. Why do so others seem to not have that ability? There's nothing I can really do with realizing this but I treat it like a grand social experiment.Posted on March 6, 2012 - 10:02 AM #
I do that with ALL of the news, from both perspectives.
Apparently many take sides rather than view all of media like a giant spin machine.
I can hear what the liberals are going to parrot by watching MSNBC just as I can listen to the right wing talking points on Fox or Rush.
My own opinions are not affected by listening/watching any more than they are by reading comments on here, sometimes I agree, sometimes I dont.Posted on March 6, 2012 - 10:14 AM #
A) "dummy" was a general statement not meant AT you but folks in general, sorry it came out the other way.
B) As for the women in my life? Those like my wife and the women in my family and the hundreds who have posted to various websites, they seem to be OK with what he said, as do I. My personal take? Did he push the envelope? Yes. Was I happy he did it? No. Do I think the "pushback" you are calling for is unnecessary? Yes. The handwringing over this incident is silly.
Please feel free to go to Conservative sites as much as you do other sites and you'll see that the "23ers" are very lit up over the perceived "outrage" at Rush vs. the lack of "outrage" with the other incidents by other talking heads.
YOU and others like you have allowed this to push the real issues of our day to the back burner and concentrate on THIS? Debt up to our asses? Still involved in military issues around the world? Disease rampant? Corrupt politicians on both sides? And we are focusing on some talk show guy who called some phony witness a bad word (bad word depending on which neighborhood you are from OR even better the new ABC series "Good Christian Bitches" which I find humorous but more so that NO ONE is bothered by that title....sheesh)? Like I said, nothing to see here.
I think you are a lot smarter than this and that is why I think you are being very smart by deflecting from the real issues in America and keeping this thing alive! Nice job!Posted on March 6, 2012 - 10:36 AM #
PS: on this question - "How about the women in your life? Why don't you go take this tack with them? That would be entertaining for sure."
They were on the air with me in droves yesterday expressing their backing of Rush. Have you watched the Twitter or Facebook timelines lately? That is where you'll find the real pulse of America, not on obscure radio blogs. They outnumber you by a ton. Yes, scary isn't it?Posted on March 6, 2012 - 10:39 AM #
Dodger... so "The Stepford Wives" isn't fiction is Salem, Oregon
I do not believe that Rush Limbaugh should be off the air just as I don't believe that government needs to regulate any vice... porn is porn... the only difference between Limbaugh and Hustler is what gets the listener/reader "off"... It is all entertainment, right? NOTHING of substance or value beyond getting the listener "off"... I think I would be less ashamed of liking PORN than liking the crap that Rush shovels each morning...Posted on March 6, 2012 - 11:08 AM #
Mother Jones' "Are you a slut flowchart".
http://motherjones.com/image/are-you-slut-flowchartPosted on March 6, 2012 - 11:42 AM #
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