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1. motozak3
   

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   The IP number for the *real* Seeburg 1000 stream (tied to http://seeburg1000.com/; not the other one that tries to pass as "Radio Coast" these days) appears to have changed recently. Now it can now be heard on http://50.23.115.122:8204/ .

   It seems like they do that every year around this time.

   It also sounds like they (at long last) have fixed the grounding loop, since it doesn't have that ever-present loud humming noise in the background. Nice. I think they're processing it differently, too, because it definitely has some "ballsy" dynamics (a very well-defined low end.) That low-level rhythmic "thumping" or "bumping" noise is also gone, so it appears they must have also fixed that faulty idler in the turntable.

   Posted on December 16, 2012 - 12:20 AM #
2. QPatrickEdwards
   

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   Thanks for the link, Moto! I like listening to the Seeburg 1000 stream (I actually like the "music" for relaxing), but also, since I am a complete troll, I find much delight in irritating my wife with it!(She is a Portland State graduate with a major in music...a former Opera singer...)

   She absolutely hates music from the 60s-80s...one day I was listening to some flavour of oldies (proably 60's) and her statement to me was:

   "Why do you listen to that oldie-mouldie crap? I want to listen to something more modern!"

   So being the troll that I am, I changed the music to a Baroque piece from centuries past...

   Her response?

   "That's much better!"

   So much for something more modern!!!

   Posted on December 16, 2012 - 08:40 AM #
3. edust1958
   

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   Moto... for us clueless, what is this stream and what is its commercial use?

   Posted on December 16, 2012 - 08:44 AM #
4. QPatrickEdwards
   

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   I think it is just run by a hobbyist for nostalgic purposes. I saw an old Seeburg machine for sale at an Antique Mall in Lincoln City a couple of years ago, not sure if it had any of the special "Seeburg" 16 2/3 RPM records with it or not.

   Posted on December 16, 2012 - 08:49 AM #
5. msndrspdx
   

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   I listen to Radio Coast once in awhile. It's out of Raleigh, NC, and they program their music with the same computer software KISN Goodguy Radio uses, so the sound is usually pretty good. The channel also has a "talking clock" that offers time (set to ET) and temperature (Raleigh's) updates between cuts, usually three or four times an hour. And they play CBS top of the hour news updates as well. No commercials! The guy who runs it found a Seeburg player on E-Bay and got interested enough in it to acquire enough records to create an online radio station out of it, digitizing the music right off the records. Nice stuff, especially late at night...

   Best, Mike

   Posted on December 16, 2012 - 09:02 AM #
6. Mrs.Merkin
   

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   Oh Good God! That was beyond horrible! I just heard 'Spinning Wheel' by Blood Sweat & Tears, muzak style with piccolos and violins, dripping with high fructose corn syrup.

   I now want to chew my own ears off.

   Posted on December 16, 2012 - 09:48 AM #
7. motozak3
   

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   The present incarnation of Radio Coast is a sacreliege. It was far better when they were still playing the records all the way through *in their entirety* and didn't have the irritating news blocks, weather reports and time announcements. When they took on their present format, it quickly went directly down the toilet. The randomness of it and the constant interruptions completely ruin whatever mood they were trying to invoke.

   I mean, why do you suppose Muzak doesn't do any of those things, but only has continuous music streams? That's why. If you're going to operate a business music service, even a "tribute" to one like the seeburg1000.com stream, it's best to preserve the sanctity of it by leaving things as they are and not adding stuff to it that isn't supposed to be there.

   @edust1958--

   What QPatrickEdwards said.

   Posted on December 16, 2012 - 02:12 PM #
8. jr_tech
   

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   The IP number for the *real* Seeburg 1000 stream (tied to http://seeburg1000.com/; not the other one that tries to pass as "Radio Coast" these days) appears to have changed recently. Now it can now be heard on http://50.23.115.122:8204/ .

   So what is the advantage of using the stream link? If I use the Seeburg 1000 site link, I get to see an unusual changer in action, and there is a place to click to listen to the stream. If I click on "stream" link, I see a boring Shoutcast page and have to click on "listen" to hear the stream. By my count, the same number of responses are required to get to hear the same stream.
   I found the Seeburg 1000 site to be pretty interesting, as I have never seen the actual player...very cool! Does the upper part of the spindle actually rotate in the *opposite* direction from the platter? Perhaps this is just an optical illusion due to the video rate?
   I am not ready to "chew my ears off", but this would *not* be my first choice even for background music.

   Posted on December 16, 2012 - 02:20 PM #
9. QPatrickEdwards
   

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   Mrs. Merkin said: "Oh Good God! That was beyond horrible! I just heard 'Spinning Wheel' by Blood Sweat & Tears, muzak style with piccolos and violins, dripping with high fructose corn syrup.

   I now want to chew my own ears off."

   I have heard worse...there is a Chinese restaurant that my wife and I frequent that ALWAYS is playing the same Debbie Gibson tape from the 80's. Every time we eat there. Every. Friggin. Time.

   If I didn't have my plate of General Tso's Chicken directly in front of me I would have chewed my own ears off!

   Posted on December 16, 2012 - 02:21 PM #
10. motozak3
    

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    @jr_tech--

    Well, obviously the stream link gets you the direct audio stream if you put it into your audio player instead of opening it in the browser (or a big MP3 file if you use it with wget.) The other one goes to the web page promoting the stream. They (wisely) don't use a FLash player on the site, but instead link to a Shoutcast page which eventually gives you the direct stream URL anyways. This just saves everybody a couple steps.

    Yes, the two stacks of records do counter-rotate. See, first the machine plays the underside of the record (side 1), then it drops it down and plays the top side of the record (side 2); consequently, the cartridge has needles on the top and bottom and two sets of pickup coils. There is a set of metal pins in the spindle tube which hold the stack in place, than retract to allow the record to drop. This also explains why the holes in the records have to be cut so large, since part of the player's mechanism is inside the spindle tube.

    Posted on December 16, 2012 - 02:31 PM #
11. jr_tech
    

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    My Word! Way more complicated than the RCA 45 spindle!

    "Debbie Gibson tape"

    Now *thats* ear chewin' material!

    Actually found some Seeburg 1000 stuff on the 'Bay: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=seebg+1000&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313&_nkw=seeburg+1000&_sacat=0

    Posted on December 16, 2012 - 03:04 PM #
12. motozak3
    

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    Funny you should mention the "45 spindle", since the 1000's precursor was a 45-based unit that used the same type of magazine and phonograph unit they were using in their standard jukeboxes at the time, called the "Library Unit". These weren't produced for very long, and the 1000 had a couple big advantages over it. The most obvious ones being that the records have a far longer playback time than a 45 (a single Seeburg 1K disk can hold about the equivalent of two library units, more or less) and the playback units take up far less physical space.

    The records show up on E-Bay at least somewhat irregularly, but they're there. I've also seen them on Amazon a couple times. I have a few myself that I acquired locally, but I need to get a new cartridge for the turntable since my old Shure ended up getting murdered last summer.

    If you're lucky, you might also come across a few of Rowe's "Customusic" records, which run on the same Seeburg equipment. And if you're *really* lucky, you might also come across one of the super-rare S1K disks Muzak put out in the '60s!

    Posted on December 16, 2012 - 03:51 PM #

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