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1. Craig_Adams
   

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   This from All Access:

   ---------------Talk Host Joe Madison Campaigning To 'Take Action Against Rush Limbaugh'---------------

   RADIO ONE Talk WOL-A/WASHINGTON and XM SATELLITE RADIO THE POWER host JOE MADISON has launched a campaign to "take action against RUSH LIMBAUGH" for comments the PREMIERE RADIO NETWORKS host has made. LIMBAUGH's criticism of President OBAMA's administration as being "graffiti on the walls of American history" and a parody movie poster posted at LIMBAUGH's website for "Driving Miss NANCY," depicting Rep, JAMES CLYBURN (D-SC) in MORGAN FREEMAN's role as the driver and former House Speaker NANCY PELOSI (D-CA) in JESSICA TANDY's "Miss Daisy" role.

   MADISON went on fellow radio talker ED SCHULTZ's MSNBC show THURSDAY night and complained, "We have not heard this type of conversation even when segregationists were at their height. Stations that carry LIMBAUGH's program have got to ask ... do you really want to subject your audience to this throwback era when racism ran rampant?" MADISON said he would gather civil rights groups to do "exactly what the ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE would do" and contact LIMBAUGH's affiliates, and threatened to take the issue to the FCC. The FCC does not regulate content other than for indecency.

   LIMBAUGH, on WEDNESDAY's show, said that the "American left and the media is simply out of its mind over my characterization of the OBAMA presidency as graffiti on the walls of history. They're claiming that this is not even well-disguised race-baiting, and they're claiming that it's race-baiting for two reasons. A, only blacks write graffiti. Now, that's palpably untrue. Graffiti is an art form that has been popularized by the poor, regardless of their skin color. The other reason they're upset over this is because I refer to OBAMA and his gang. They're assuming that I am making a racial comment here. And then they didn't like what MICHAELE put on our website, our graphic designer, our website art depicting this, OBAMA as graffiti on MOUNT RUSHMORE. I mean, it's too easy. It's too easy. BRIAN MALONEY, 'Radio Equalizer,' is right. He thinks they have a bounty on me, whoever it is, is gonna be made a lot of money if they come up with the way to get me, quote, unquote, fired or off the air.

   "They're upset about this CLYBURN business, this 'Driving Miss NANCY,' that still has 'em over the moon, they still can't figure this out, and I have been borne out as accurate about this, this Congressional Black Caucus is withholding its support of PELOSI, placing CLYBURN in this make up leadership position, the number three. They're not using the word, but they want to make sure it's not a token appointment. We got the audio sound bites here."

   Posted on November 19, 2010 - 07:38 PM #
2. Andy_brown
   

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   The world already knows that Raunch is a racist since his days as a "sportscaster."

   Posted on November 19, 2010 - 08:14 PM #
3. Error Supply
   

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   No he is not But what fun would it be for Liberals if they didn't believe he was.

   Posted on November 19, 2010 - 08:29 PM #
4. littlesongs
   

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   Yes. Rush is a racist and has a long track record to prove it.

   Posted on November 19, 2010 - 08:45 PM #
5. Andy_brown
   

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   "No he is not"

   At least one of us has been paying attention, and it wasn't you.

   Posted on November 19, 2010 - 10:09 PM #
6. Error Supply
   

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   I thought about arguing the point for a minute but what good would it do? You all have your minds made up.

   Have a good weekend.

   Posted on November 19, 2010 - 10:46 PM #
7. NoParty
   

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   I for one don't think he is racist. He is just plain ignorant. He reminds me of the hicks in the Appalachian mountains that still don't have electricity, running water, schools, TV, newspapers, sense in their heads, communication with the outside world or oral hygiene tools.

   Posted on November 20, 2010 - 11:43 AM #
8. NoParty
   

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   I thought about arguing the point for a minute but what good would it do? You all have your minds made up.

   Kind of like Herb, Broadway, Skybill and yourself have your minds made up about Obama.

   

   Posted on November 20, 2010 - 11:45 AM #
9. missing_kskd
   

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   It's a PITA to declare somebody racist. (you guys all watched those videos edselehr linked a while back right?)

   Well, I took those to heart, and get the whole "what people do" conversation compared to "what they are" conversation. The "what they are" conversation is painful, and generally useless, unless the evidence is very clear, so...

   Given that, what I do know is LIMBAUGH enables racism, and he says racist things, and he does so on a big bully pulpit, and that enabling is selling hate like a cheap whore sells sex, and is not admirable in any way. It is notable too, in that our whackos who decide to kill people and do bad things, often find the comfort and confidence needed to do it from the enabling in his program.

   LIMBAUGH = helping every racist, bigot, and theocrat feel better about the scum they are, every day.

   Posted on November 20, 2010 - 12:22 PM #
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    "LIMBAUGH enables racism, and he says racist things, and he does so on a big bully pulpit, and that enabling is selling hate like a cheap whore sells sex"

    If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, smells like a dog and looks like a duck, it's a duck.

    There is no debatable point in my mind as to whether Raunch is or is not a racist at heart. The symptoms are all there. The principal definition of racism:

    a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

    That fits Raunch to a T.

    I'd sooner listen to a cheap whore pitch her wares than Raunch pitch his hate.

    Posted on November 20, 2010 - 12:35 PM #
11. edselehr
    

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    Simple answer to the thread question: yes.

    Posted on November 20, 2010 - 03:34 PM #
12. NoParty
    

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    Ed gets the award for the best answer!!!!!!

    Posted on November 21, 2010 - 12:03 PM #
13. Listener_Pete
    

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    Does anyone remember when Limbaugh thought Sherrod Brown (now a Democratic Senator from Ohio)was black?

    http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200602160001

    Maybe somebody in the party has figured this out. And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too. And now, the newspaper that I'm reading all this from is The New York Times, and they, of course, don't mention that. But -- you know, "Democratic leaders say that Representative Sherrod Brown, a seven-term incumbent from Avon, has a far better chance of toppling Senator DeWine than does the -- Hackett."

    Posted on November 21, 2010 - 02:24 PM #
14. missing_kskd
    

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    Well, I just caught a retread of the Ed Schultz show. He's got a great angle; namely, "is racism ok on public airwaves?"

    Awesome question! Speaks right to the matter of whether or not selling hate serves the public interest at all.

    Posted on November 21, 2010 - 05:55 PM #
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    I don't know Rush Limbaugh personally, so I have no clue what views the man actually holds, outside of what he does on the radio. The rhetoric that he and other talk radio personalities promote often imply that Blacks and some other minorities almost always favor "big government" and the Democratic Party. The exact reasons why are left an exercise for the listener (although a few "dots" are thrown out for audience members to connect). Having said that, years ago I recall hearing Black fill-in hosts on the Rush Limbaugh program, so I don't believe that the show promotes the notion that all Blacks are liberals (just most of them and certainly Obama is one). Is this a racist viewpoint? I think that in time, the lens of history will answer this better than any one of us here can. Read on for an explanation of why I believe this.

    In high school US History, we had a short unit on McCarthyism and the Cold War. During this unit, a reproduction of an old anti-Communist poster, created by the US government (possibly by the House Un-American Activities Committee) was shown. The poster showed a picture of a hand, which the teacher pointed out was a Black person's hand. The teacher then explained that the sentiment that this poster was trying to communicate was that the Black community, because it was poor and disenfranchised, posed a large risk of rallying behind the Communist Party. Viewed from the vantage point of today (or the 1990s), this poster is quite racist because it portrays a specific racial group, which already was largely disliked, particularly in the South, as potential political traitors. But, the designers of the poster probably did not see it in that light.

    Posted on November 22, 2010 - 01:46 PM #
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    http://liberalvaluesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/rush-limbaugh-idiot.jpg

    Posted on November 22, 2010 - 10:36 PM #
17. Vitalogy
    

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    Rush Limbaugh is racist beyond belief. He has a documented history, and when you add it all up, you come to one conclusion: Limbaugh is a racist by definition. I will give him credit in that he defends himself well, but the facts are the facts.

    Posted on November 22, 2010 - 10:57 PM #
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    I find it amusing (and sad) one could come to any other conclusion. Of course he's a racist. He's a text book example of the kind of latent racism that virtually quantifies the modern (far right) GOP.

    Look up the defintion of the word. Got it?

    Now cross index with innumerable (and I'm not kidding...we're talking about hundreds of statements) examples of race related, Rush buffoonary. Got that?

    That's racism. Sorry, conservative white people. These are word and words have actual meanings. You can even look them up.

    The standard meme trotted out for two years now from the far right is, "Oh! If we criticize Obama we're racist! You silly liberals"!

    No, you're racist when you make inane, blatantantly racist statements and then take false umbrage when called out on it.

    Posted on November 22, 2010 - 11:12 PM #
19. Notalent
    

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    So why do you suppose black people actually work for him?

    Posted on November 22, 2010 - 11:44 PM #
20. missing_kskd
    

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    Either they are stupid, have been manipulated, really need a job, or some other lame thing.

    Are you really asking whether or not, having the target of racism in your employ, in this economy, is relevant to the racism itself in some way?

    (it's not)

    Posted on November 23, 2010 - 12:05 AM #
21. Error Supply
    

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    Jesus is a racist.

    Posted on November 23, 2010 - 09:50 AM #
22. LurkingGrendel
    

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    That's your comeback? Why does he have black people working for him?

    I.e. I know a black person; ergo I cannot be a racist? Or I know someone who is gay, "and I don't have a problem with that" so you're not homophobic? In spite of a panoply of statements that seem to indicate exactly the opposite? You mean like that?

    Or while, literally, 99% of every self identified far right, GOP loon is a white person but the one or two black people they’re able to locate that support their candidates in some way absolves them of having to consider every offensive, blatantly racial, and deeply ignorant position most of those same candidates hold?

    You sir, are a master of logic.

    Posted on November 23, 2010 - 11:36 AM #
23. NoParty
    

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    So why do you suppose black people actually work for him?

    They need a job?

    Posted on November 23, 2010 - 12:37 PM #
24. Broadway
    

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    >>black people actually work for him
    from Wikipedia...a real radio guy--

    Bo Snerdley is the official "program observer" and call screener. His real name is James Golden. From comments Limbaugh has made on the air, it would seem he assists with research as part of preparation for the show and is in the control booth as the show is being broadcast. He co-hosted a Sunday night talk show, James and Joel, on WABC with Joel Santisteban from 1992 to 1998. Snerdley is a pseudonym Limbaugh invented many years earlier when he was a disc jockey on WIXZ (when Limbaugh went by the name Jeff Christy); he would use the name Snerdley for supposed-listeners who would write or call in, usually professing to be big fans and part of the "Christy Nation". More recently, the name Snerdley has been used for his call screeners, both male and female. During a show in 2004, Limbaugh was not at the microphone for the last segment of the second hour (it was only about ten seconds), and Snerdley came on instead: "This is Bo Snerdley, Rush will be right back on the EIB Network." It was one of the very rare times his voice has been heard on the program before 2008. "Bo" Snerdley screens callers at the Palm Beach Florida broadcasting location and in New York City. In February 2008, Snerdley, who is African-American, was appointed by Limbaugh as the show's Official Criticizer of Barack Obama: "certified black enough to criticize" On the July 24th show, "Bo" was put on the air as the "Official Obama Criticizer", and spoke for roughly 5 minutes with Rush about the incident with Cambridge police. On October 16, he requested (and received) air time to air a five-minute rant, that criticized NFL players, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and media commentators who opposed Rush Limbaugh's potential bid on the St. Louis Rams.

    Posted on November 23, 2010 - 01:50 PM #
25. Alfredo_T
    

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    Snopes.com has an investigation of nine popular supposed Rush quotes of a racial nature at http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/limbaugh.asp It was proven that he said a few of them, but not all. The ones that they could attribute to him were:

    * "Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing."
    * "Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it."
    * "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?"
    * "I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there's a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn't deserve."

    Of all these, the one about the NFL looking like a game between the Bloods and the Crips does strike me as racist. The other ones, I think, require some interpretation.

    Posted on November 23, 2010 - 02:08 PM #
26. Error Supply
    

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    If you think Rush is a racist because of that then I have to wonder what you think of Howard Stern.

    Posted on November 24, 2010 - 08:51 PM #
27. missing_kskd
    

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    Howard Stern is not claiming moral authority.

    Posted on November 24, 2010 - 09:09 PM #
28. Skybill9
    

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    Howard Stern is a waste of skin.

    Posted on November 25, 2010 - 02:49 AM #
29. NoParty
    

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    As is LimBLAH.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 02:15 PM #
30. Broadway
    

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    >>Howard Stern is not claiming moral authority.
    But his own version of (his) morality?

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 02:32 PM #
31. missing_kskd
    

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    No, he's just Howard Stern, entertainer.

    That's the difference. You may think he's scum, and I think there are a lot of people who would agree.

    Stern isn't trying to make other people's choices for them. He could give two shits about what you think, or what your moral preferences are. Those are personal matters, and his choices are his, and he gets to make them, and if that entertains, all is good in the world.

    Limbaugh thinks his choices are "the right" choices, and rather than just express that, and entertain, he goes one farther trying to build support to legislate what others can and cannot do.

    Limbaugh also plays on the worst of us, "NUMBER ONE WITH RACISTS". You know, Stern isn't NUMBER ONE WITH RACISTS.

    There is a reason for that, and it's simply that Stern has the sense to know the difference between just being trashy, and offensive, and actually discriminating against other people for personal and political gain.

    So, NO Broadway. He doesn't claim any moral authority, where most of the conservative right IS!

    And that's why nobody likes them, but for those controlling people, who side with them and think it's ok to make other people's moral choices for them.

    It's not you know.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 03:45 PM #
32. NoParty
    

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    LimBLAH is trying to be Mr. Morality yet he never put himself in jail after his drug problem. Add HYPROCRITE to his list.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 03:49 PM #
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    Rush is just an entertainer, don't like it then don't listen. Listen to Mike Malloy instead.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 03:59 PM #
34. missing_kskd
    

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    Actually, he's not.

    He enables racists, bigots and theocrats to discriminate against people and deny ordinary people their right to make their own moral choices.

    Stern and Malloy, for example, are entertainers. Agree, or not, neither of them are actually enabling hate for who people are. That is what Limbaugh and his many "mini-me's" do constantly. Being black or gay, for example, isn't something people have control of. Hating on them for that is always wrong.

    ALWAYS

    Stern and Malloy are trashy, foul, angry, and hateful, and let's talk about that hate for a moment. There is a difference, and it matters.

    When I hear Malloy whipping up the hate, which he does do, it's for what people DO, not WHO THEY ARE.

    That's the difference.

    The other big difference is Stern and Malloy don't claim moral authority. They know damn well they are just ordinary people, entertainers, who have ugly problems just like everybody else does.

    Limbaugh does claim that authority, as if he's somehow in a position to claim moral authority, and he enables others who feel the same way, and he does it for profit, banking from the discrimination of people that happens when we enable bigots, racists and theocrats.

    Hating some CEO for fucking the people is OK! Seriously. That CEO didn't have to fuck the people over, so that's a choice. Act like an ass, and a lot of people are going to call you out, for the ass that you are.

    That's all fair ball, and good entertainment, by the way.

    Be a black or gay person, and what?? Get called out for that, and do what??? Change? Be a white person, or not gay person?

    The difference there is one is just the product of having a first amendment. We expect people to push back on those other people doing ugly, nefarious, shitty things. No harm, no foul. We all make our choices, and can be held accountable for those choices.

    What Limbaugh does is just mean. When he makes his million, people all over the place suffer in a society that condones the hating of them, just because it makes money, not that it's right, or even just.

    So let's be honest here, shall we?

    That black person, gay person, who wakes up each day, confronted with Limbaugh listeners hating on them doesn't get to take a break. They don't get to make a different choice. That's who they ARE.

    I think that's seriously fucked up wrong to do, and to enable to do. Frankly, if it must continue to be legal, then the answer is to raise the cost of airing that shit, so maybe it will make a whole lot less sense to do it.

    It all works really simple. If we don't call out the bigots, then we will live in a world filled with bigotry. Limbaugh is a net loss, worthless.

    If you add up the cost of all the people who suffer discrimination and hate, that cost exceeds the worth Limbaugh has to the society as a whole, because he's feeding that shit for his own self-serving desire to feed his greed, stepping on the backs of his fellow Americans, so he can go to some island, pop pills and maybe forget about how disgusting he is for a time.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 04:38 PM #
35. NoParty
    

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    Listen to Mike Malloy instead.

    HELL NO! Malloy is a certifiable nut-job like (((GB))) and O'LIEly!

    I listen to LimBLAH so I know what the lock-steppers are going to be talking about at Hawthorne AC and the shooting range. Plus it's pure comedy to listen to him and then listen to the CONers on here repeat the same garbage 2-3 hours later. PURE COMEDY!

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 07:15 PM #
36. Magic Eye
    

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    Blah-blah-blah. Blah-blah-blah-blah.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 08:00 PM #
37. NoParty
    

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    Like I said... YOU repeat what he says.

    That's what we hear when your talkin'... Is YOUR talk show on local Lazy?

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 08:11 PM #
38. Error Supply
    

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    Every topic and every discussion about Rush only makes him richer. Keep it up and you can rest assured he will be around for years to come.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 09:18 PM #
39. NoParty
    

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    Good! I wish him all the money in the world! He can afford more Oxy!

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 10:05 PM #
40. Notalent
    

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    I so love the tolerance of the left.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 10:10 PM #
41. missing_kskd
    

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    Yeah, we tend to not tolerate discrimination very much. We are kind of funny that way, seeing as how it's shitty to hold somebody to account for things they have no control over.

    Ever wonder about the sheer number of just bat shit crazy, repressed righties, who eventually go down huge?? Poor bastards buy into the kind of thinking that leads to discrimination being ok, then come to find out they are targeting themselves!

    Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people, if you ask me.

    I know you really want to marginalize that Notalent. You know, "teach us lefties a lesson?" Yeah. Well, it's just gotta suck to know deep down you are full of crap, citing false equilivence instead of owning up to support of some rather ugly people.

    On the matter of discrimination, the left has the absolute moral high ground, no questions, if's and's or buts. It's always wrong, and we are very quick to point that out, because unlike the right and screwed up people in general, we know better!

    It isn't a holier than thou bit either. That gets tried regularly, but the problem with making that stick is you just won't find racists, bigots and theocrats leaning left. We generally don't tolerate that well enough to let it become part of the ideology. Call it a basic conflict.

    ...and when we get caught on it? Yeah, it happens. Happened with me and mixed-race marriage. What can I say? Small town morals sometimes take a while to sort out when people begin to really socialize. So, what do we do?

    We get some help and get it fixed, because discrimination like that is ALWAYS WRONG. It's easier to cover that up in lies, and false equivilencies. Much harder to just do the work to socialize and get along with the rest of the kids.

    So, we are a little funny about that too. It's difficult to watch people being complete asses about these things, working double over time to justify them, rather than do the work most self-respecting people do to socialize and not discriminate and hate.

    Kind of like it is for some righties, who can't stand somebody getting a leg up, without also getting their "fair share".

    The difference is, all those motivations are self-serving in the best of ways.

    Honestly, I don't want to live in a world filled with bigots, for example. The best way to insure that doesn't happen is to call the bigots out consistently and regularly. If it's painful to be a bigot, the bigots will either reform, or go hide somewhere, and either is fine by me.

    Being nice works the same way. Want to live in a nice world, where people are friendly, polite, and such?

    Look in the mirror then. It all starts right there, and pretty much anybody who matters on the left will tell you that in a second, having learned those lessons long before passing them on.

    You can go ahead and call that elitist too. In this context, that's a label I would wear proudly! It's the least I can do.

    

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 11:12 PM #
42. skeptical
    

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    Every topic and every discussion about Rush only makes him richer. Keep it up and you can rest assured he will be around for years to come.

    Actually, I think Rush is going to eventually end up in a train wreck of his own creation. Think Tom DeLay. Just wait.

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 11:31 PM #
43. missing_kskd
    

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    Yeah, could happen! There are a whole lot of people in this world; namely, the targets of the racism, theocracy and bigotry he enables, who would love to see that happen. People are funny that way, aren't they?

    Posted on November 26, 2010 - 11:34 PM #
44. NoParty
    

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    I so love the tolerance of the left.

    And we love the intolerance and ignorance of the right. It makes for some of the best comedy ever!

    Posted on November 27, 2010 - 12:57 AM #
45. Error Supply
    

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    wow your just the king of comebacks aren't you?

    Posted on November 27, 2010 - 01:18 PM #
46. missing_kskd
    

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    *PLONK*

    Just because I know you love those ES.

    Posted on November 27, 2010 - 01:20 PM #
47. NoParty
    

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    Love you ES!

    

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