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"I'm just not going to watch TV; I'll do without,"

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  • Started 3 years ago by Craig_Adams
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  1. Here's some backlash from yesterday's Analog end:

    "One person called in, and it turned out she hadn't turned her converter box on," said Wanda Q. Draper, director of programming and public affairs at WBAL, Channel 11.

    Some were baffled by all the techno-talk and might have given up in frustration. "We heard from several seniors who said, 'I'm just not going to watch TV; I'll do without,' " said Laura Riley, division chief for individual and family services at the Baltimore County Department of Aging.

    For more, read The Baltimore Sun article from June 13, 2009:

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-md.dtv13jun13,0,5789006.story

    Posted on June 13, 2009 - 02:58 AM #
  2. "We heard from several seniors who said, 'I'm just not going to watch TV; I'll do without"

    Yikes, they actually might be on to something there. Pull an "Elvis" and dispatch the damned thing with a .38... then go take a walk and mow the lawn; actually talk with the neighbors, etc. Hmmm, not bad.

    Posted on June 13, 2009 - 07:27 AM #
  3. Amus

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    "We heard from several seniors who said, 'I'm just not going to watch TV; I'll do without"

    There goes CBS's prime demographic.

    Posted on June 13, 2009 - 08:56 AM #
  4. We've had the converter box for a couple of months. I initially watched more TV at that time just out of the novelty aspect. One of our sons friends came over soon after to set up his XBox and reconfigured everything. Since then I haven't turned on the TV. Even with a converter box I have to agree with those senior citizens, I'm just not going to watch TV.

    Anyway it's time for my 3 mile walk with my wife and then off to the gym to workout.

    Posted on June 13, 2009 - 10:21 AM #
  5. hwidsten

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    Although I can't get as worked up about this change as some people, it IS a defining moment in the history of broadcast television. It is too soon to determine the overall effect of the change affecting coverage, viewership, etc., as the American public figures out how to work this new fangled stuff.

    The level of concern on the part of the government prior to this change shows the immense power of television's effect on the lives of the American people. The unprecedented discount cards available to everyone to cushion the blow of the cost to the consumer, the gazillion public service announcements broadcast for almost two years, the FCC mandated local call-centers set up to explain what was going to happen and how to deal with it. When have we ever seen anything like that in recent history? It all shows the enormous influence of this medium.

    I happened to be in a Best Buy store this morning shortly after 10 AM in need of a cell phone charger. The TV department was jammed with people.

    Posted on June 13, 2009 - 12:17 PM #
  6. Alfredo_T

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    A number of other countries are also watching this conversion and the conversions that have happened in a few European countries in the last few years to observe the real-world performance of the various systems.

    During my visit to Panama and Costa Rica, I noticed that I was not able to find a high-definition broadcast service of any kind. The nice hotels and resorts had standard CRT TVs in the rooms, and these were hooked up to analog cable systems. Flat screen TVs were present in many public areas, such as lounges, bars, and restaurants, but these were displaying stretched-out 4:3 images.

    It is interesting how the relative importance of various factors in selecting television systems has evolved over the years. Before the advent of videotape, it seems that some countries went out of their ways to develop their own video systems either to protect domestic electronics manufacturers or to discourage the viewing of foreign television stations: the British had a 405-line system, the French had an 819-line system, and Germany might have been using something else.

    In North America, Mexico picked NTSC--likely because American-made equipment would have been the easiest to obtain, and the NTSC sync generators and telecine projectors were designed to run on 60Hz power (which Mexico used). By the time that television started appearing in other Latin American countries in the late 1950s and early 1960s, the desire to do program exchange via tape or even to internationally broadcast live events was becoming a factor. Many Latin American countries went with NTSC for compatibility with Mexico. Argentina went with 625 line PAL, as did neighbors Paraguay and Uruguay.

    Posted on June 13, 2009 - 02:05 PM #
  7. Alfredo got me thinking about other aspects of this change. Border citizens of Canada, Mexico & Cuba that are poor and depend on American TV stations because TV reception from their country is distant & snowy. These citizens can't get free coupons for converter boxes. What are the effects for these border watchers? Did they lose Television yesterday?

    Posted on June 13, 2009 - 07:46 PM #
  8. Alfredo_T

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    With regards to that last article, I think that they may have a point in that this move could end up making local television stations less relevant. I am not holding my breath on the idea that this will somehow change the way that politics is done. Serious campaigns with money are willing to pay big bucks to whomever is capable of getting the candidate's message to the largest number of potential voters. If TV stops being the messenger of choice, the campaigns will just take their money elsewhere. I can guarantee that money will continue to matter, regardless of where it goes.

    Posted on June 13, 2009 - 09:14 PM #
  9. What people are saying about the switch. Excerpts from The Press-Enterprise, Riverside, California:

    "This is just wrong," said Riverside resident Kristin Brennan, 59, after repairman Pat Delahunty hooked up her bedroom converter box to a 19-inch Sylvania set with a rabbit-ears antenna. The procedure took 5 minutes. "I'm not happy at all," she said. "Some poor and elderly people don't have money for this."

    She and her husband, Kerry, 62, have been content living in their Woods Streets home since 1971 with their trusty analog televisions. "I'm a procrastinator," Kerry said. "I didn't want to wait until the last minute, but I kept putting it off."

    Alejandro Quintero, 60, of Perris, said he will forgo television in his home for now because work for the day laborer is scarce and the little income he gains is quickly spent on rent and food. For important events, like soccer matches between Mexico and other national teams, Quintero said he plans to watch at his neighbor's house.

    Perris resident Isabel Coronel-Mora, 63, who occasionally picks up housekeeping and cooking work to pay the bills, said she also lacks the money to purchase a box and will have to save up. In the meantime, she plans to listen to the radio and sing along rather than watching her favorite soap operas and televised Catholic Masses.

    "A lot of people are very upset," said Delahunty, owner of Pat's T.V. Sales in Riverside. "They don't want to upgrade their sets and think it's a conspiracy. I keep hearing, 'Why is the government doing this to us?' "

    William Price, 77, who lives alone in the Juniper Terrace mobile home park in Hemet said "For me this is sort of turning into a grand experiment, I'm going to try going it without any TV. I just didn't feel like messing with it."

    Read the entire article here:
    http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_S_digital13.3dcbf18.html

    Posted on June 14, 2009 - 01:54 AM #
  10. Alfredo_T

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    Why is the government doing this to us?

    $$$

    Posted on June 14, 2009 - 11:40 AM #
  11. hwidsten

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    Craig, et al:

    What you wrote about the people near the Mexican border is exactly what the TV stations throughout South Texas and other border states are concerned about. The ADIs in this part of the world are huge due to the flat terrain. The San Antonio ADI goes almost all way to Corpus Christi, and does almost overlap the El Paso ADI. To put this in perspective, El Paso is a 12 hour drive from San Antonio.

    The American TV people are concerned that the poorer part of the population near the border won't get the converters or upgrade their sets. Instead, they'll just turn their antennas around and watch Mexican TV, which is still analog. In a lot of those homes Spanish is the primary language. This is going to change the numbers and could affect viewing in some US markets in a very negative way. That means a loss of revenue. Just what we don't need right now.

    If you multiply what the guy at Pat's TV said, you'll understand why the Senators and Representatives were so frightened of this change. "Why is the government doing this to us" says it all. There will be fallout from this change for months to come.

    Posted on June 14, 2009 - 11:55 AM #
  12. jr_tech

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    The 6 stages of any project:

    1 Enthusiasm

    2 Disillusionment

    3 Panic

    4 Search for the guilty

    5 Punishment of the innocent

    6 Reward of the non-participants

    Where are we on the scale today?

    Posted on June 14, 2009 - 12:44 PM #
  13. Andy_brown

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    TV and radio ad revenues are already in a downward spiral. The TV people will have another excuse why they can't sell any ads.

    http://www.tvb.org/rcentral/adrevenuetrack/revenue/2009/ad_figures_1.asp

    The recession, the failure of Chrysler and G.M., the internet, video to smartphone streaming, and the continued lack of quality entertainment have already reduced the "power" of broadcast television. The DTV transition comes along at an inopportune time, but even without it broadcasting is in trouble ... big trouble. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

    Posted on June 14, 2009 - 12:45 PM #
  14. "Continued lack of quality entertainment"

    Boy, have you got THAT right!

    Only things left of any real interest to me on TV are live sports coverage, and Jeopardy! For these, I continue to fill cabletv's coffers. edit: Hah! It would be kind of fitting for me to miss seeing my 41st consecutive Kentucky Derby next May because my TV was being recycled

    The fiancee would miss NCIS and some of the CSI's, though.

    Posted on June 15, 2009 - 06:01 AM #
  15. Alfredo_T

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    20/20 is quickly starting to slip from my list of shows worth watching due to the many long-form stories on abductions, deadly love triangles, and the like that they seem to have run recently. I will eventually set up a tuner to watch the DTV signals, but I am in no hurry to do so.

    Posted on June 15, 2009 - 11:01 PM #
  16. jr_tech

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    Sorry to say, but I have watched Ch 2 more since it was turned off than before...A DXer loves a nice open low band channel!

    Posted on June 16, 2009 - 10:43 AM #
  17. Whats driving me nuts now about 20/20 is that since Barbara Walters has left, the producers have let John Stossel off his leash and letting him go on entire tangets from his Libertarian thinking at full steam. I get annoyed by this now and well it gets one sided now because he picks people that seem to only agree with him such as his friend the president of Whole Foods.

    Posted on June 16, 2009 - 01:57 PM #
  18. hwidsten

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    Don't know if you are aware, but John Stossel started his broadcasting career at KGW-TV. He was right out of college when he joined us. John had a bad stuttering problem that he worked very hard to beat. Also did some news broadcasts on KGW Radio. Putting politics aside, he is one of the good guys on network TV.

    Posted on June 16, 2009 - 06:01 PM #
  19. the reception is better but there is one drawback: I can't tape one show while watching another!

    Posted on June 16, 2009 - 06:20 PM #
  20. semoochie

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    That would make him...Stuttering John?(pa dump bump)

    Posted on June 16, 2009 - 10:41 PM #
  21. Alfredo_T

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    "Give me a break!"

    Posted on June 17, 2009 - 09:45 AM #
  22. Shyguy

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    Sometimes I wish John Stossel would get himself slapped again!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbi01QXabeA

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Schultz_(professional_wrestler)

    Seriously his "What would you do" segments suck balls.

    20/20 used to be a great newsmagazine. Now its just one step above a Dateline.

    I would much rather watch Nightline. And its going away soon isn't it?

    Posted on June 17, 2009 - 11:28 AM #
  23. Andy_brown

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    It's a race to see whom will desert TV faster, the viewers or the advertisers.

    Posted on June 17, 2009 - 11:33 AM #

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