Hey, it is after midnight and I can’t sleep. So instead of counting sheep, I decided to count the number of “right wing” AM radio stations in Portland. Let’s see, there are KXL, KPDQ, KPAM, KXFD, KEX, and KUIK. Wow, Rush Limbaugh would be proud. Now on the other hand, the only “left wing” station is KPOJ.
Even the Mark and Dave show seems to have gone “right wing”. I turned them on in the car this afternoon expecting to hear their cheerful voices and found them interviewing a Republican candidate for something. It had been awhile since I tuned them in, and I quickly tuned them out when I heard the interview.
Whatever happened to the days when a talk show host could look at both sides of an issue and discuss it equally and intelligently?
Now let’s see what I can come up with for replacements on the memories on the car radio. KKSN for head banging on the steering wheel while stuck in traffic, “The Fan” as sometime sports talk can be entertaining, KBNP, KBPS, and KKAD for some real classics. Well, that doesn’t quite even out so I may have to throw in KOAC .
Ok, thanks for reading. I’m going back to bed and count DX stations. Goodnight.
Can't sleep - Right Wing radio(17 posts)
Hey, it is after midnight and I can’t sleep. So instead of counting sheep, I decided to count the number of “right wing” AM radio stations in Portland. Let’s see, there are KXL, KPDQ, KPAM, KXFD, KEX, and KUIK. Wow, Rush Limbaugh would be proud. Now on the other hand, the only “left wing” station is KPOJ.Posted on September 16, 2010 - 01:38 AM #
WOW! You consider "Coast To Coast AM with George Noory" on KEX right wing? Or the new program on "Freedom 970" I love as an alternative when Coast's subject's get boring, it's called "Doug McIntyre's Red Eye Radio" midnight to 3. For my money the best program on KXFD. Doug is not right or left, he's in the middle and smart as a whip! http://dougmcintyreonline.com/Posted on September 16, 2010 - 02:53 AM #
Right on Craig. I would hardly call Coast to Coast a right wing show. I wouldn't call it a left wing show, either. It is generally interesting, sometimes strange, sometimes sorta boring. It depends on what they talk about that hour.
Same agreement on McIntyre, from the few times I have heard it.
I don't consider Mark & Dave as one side or the other, either. So what if they interviewed a Republican. They are a variety type show and can interview Dems or Reps.
Pat asked the question "Whatever happened to the days when a talk show host could look at both sides of an issue and discuss it equally and intelligently?". Mark & Dave can do that. Or does looking at both sides only involve hearing from Democrats?
One should look at what you can pick up here, not just what is here locally. I cannot hear KUIK at night, or even in the daytime for that matter, so I cannot comment on what they do. However, I can get KGO, even better than KPDQ and in the wee hours of the morning, that is as far as right wing as you can get without falling into the ocean.
And according to the recent thread of August ratings, nobody is listening to KPOJ so what good would another station do?
Now, I would agree that there is probably way too much talk across the dial.Posted on September 16, 2010 - 09:34 AM #
Pat equates right wing talk radio with being incapable of discussing topics "equally and intelligently." Beauty (or garbage) is in the eye of the beholder. Those of us on the right look at the drivel from the likes of Keith Olbermann as anything but discussing topics equally or intelligently. And how about those softballs Larry King tosses, and his fill-in Soledad O'Brien to boot with her recent interview with the imam behind the GZ mosque? Heaven forbid he returns to radio!
George Noory is more of a libertarian than a conservative. He has some real wackos as guests on UFOs and the like, but I enjoy his insights into finance and economics.
Re: Mark & Dave, I had to laugh back when John Kitzhaber was governor and he refused to appear on the Lars Larson show because, according to the governor's press secretary, he did not consider Lars "to be a journalist" (I was present at the governor's office when he made that remark). Lo and behold, a couple of weeks later, there was Gov. Kitzhaber appearing live on the Mark & Dave show! Correct me if I am wrong, but do either of them have a journalism background...or even consider themselves to be journalists?Posted on September 16, 2010 - 09:41 AM #
Alright, some good discussion. I finally got to sleep sometime after 4 AM.
I never considered Coast to Coast. I haven't listened to it much since Art Bell left. I am usually not up that late at night anymore, but next time I can't sleep I'll try "Red eye Radio", it sounds interesting.
On Mark and Dave, it seems the last couple of times I did listen to them they were is serious discussion on political issues and I just tired of politics. I will give them another try though.
I was just making a general statement on AM talk radio in Portland. It would just be nice if there could be talk radio without politics.
To answer a question...no, I'm not a democrat, I am a registered Independent.
One more shot before I go. Bob Miller's show used to a lot of fun to listen to. Seems after moving to KPAM there is much more serious talk then fun.
I suppose we could get off on another whole issue of serious talk vs stupid talk, but maybe I'll wait until I can't sleep again to tackle that one.
Thanks, and take care everyone.Posted on September 16, 2010 - 10:11 AM #
Right wingers need to to be talked to to be told how to think. That's why they have 1786 hours of talk radio a week around America.Posted on September 16, 2010 - 11:35 AM #
KKPZ could be added to the list, as some of the programs that they air (or have aired) do tend to stray into political territory. The implied question, "why isn't there talk radio without politics?" is an interesting one that I don't know the answer to with any degree of certainty. I remember that at one time, many talk radio programs were about giving advice to listeners or about apolitical entertainment. Today, we still have shows like "The Car Care Clinic" and various programs about home improvement and the like. There are also "lifestyle" type shows and gossip programs, though these seem to primarily live on FM today. The best answer I can come up with is that the political shows tend to be provocative and provocative programming gets ratings. When there is a lot of yelling and screaming going on, the more calm voices of Dr. Joy Browne, Dr. Dean Edell, (long gone) Sally Jesse Raphael, and (long gone) Lee Mirabal tend to get drowned out.Posted on September 16, 2010 - 01:37 PM #
I don't usually post these kinds of announcements but as long as were on the subject, this from All Access:
-----------------------------------------George Noory's Out And About-----------------------------------------
PREMIERE RADIO NETWORKS "COAST TO COAST AM" host GEORGE NOORY will appear at two public events this weekend.
On FRIDAY, NOORY will broadcast live from the QUEEN MARY in LONG BEACH for the GHOSTFEST 4 EXPO. NOORY will meet and greet fans 6:30-8:30p (PT) on the legendary (and, some say, haunted) oceanliner before hosting his show from the ship.
On SATURDAY, NOORY will head north to SAN LEANDRO, CA for an appearance at the UFO X FEST. NOORY will meet and greet fans and hold a question-and-answer session 1-3p (PT) at the BAL THEATRE.Posted on September 16, 2010 - 08:54 PM #
Tonight on "Coast To Coast AM with George Noory", guest Richard C. Hoagland will be discussing in the first hour (10pm) the Vatican's startling new pronouncement:
"Space missionaries heading out to the stars to convert aliens to Christianity."
Man, I got to hear this!Posted on September 17, 2010 - 07:33 PM #
Pat's larger point is true, though: radio is bloated with right-wing talk, with very little from a left viewpoint. And KEX definitely leans right.Posted on September 17, 2010 - 08:13 PM #
Yes, daytime radio is more conservative than night time. I've found the wee hours of radio far more interesting, edgy & fun. Stations can take more chances past midnight. It's this kind of radio that molded me into a night person as far back as the 1960's.Posted on September 17, 2010 - 08:24 PM #
I thought I read that Dr. Dean Edell has migrated to KPOJ.
I must agree with Craig. Late night radio is interesting--especially the short-wave bands.Posted on September 19, 2010 - 12:33 PM #
In McMinnville most Portland Am stations cut power. I put an old Pentium 3 in the bedroom so i can listen to internet radio since i can't sleep most of the time.
I use a site called http://www.streamingradioguide.com. Click on talk radio, then shows on now! it's like tv guide for radio! Now i really can't sleep, until about 7am!
I grew up in Orange County, Calif so i listen to Knx1070 the most.Posted on September 19, 2010 - 04:21 PM #
KFMD only has phil hendrie on from 10 to midnight, which is unfortunate. Although, Doug McIntyre is descent.Posted on September 21, 2010 - 12:27 AM #
can't sleep ???
try C2CPosted on September 21, 2010 - 07:51 AM #
There's a reason there's (comparitively) very little "left" radio, opinion programming, and the like.
The "left" prefers news that's actually news. I, and I suspect many others, are not really interested in a Democratic spin. I’m interested in what actually happened, what’s actually going on, what’s actually good and bad, and what actually occurred in the world. Not some kind of Twilight Zone like, warped, parallel universe wherein information is distorted to fit a predetermined ideological prism.
Side-note: NPR has substantially higher ratings than any of the aforementioned programs in Portland.
There are entire websites dedicated to correcting the misinformation, omissions, and blatant falsehoods that are routinely blathered across the conservative media presented as fact. Not wrong in mine (or others) opinion; but wrong on the incontrovertible facts.
I don't watch a great deal of TV, but I like Rachel on MSNBC. Her opinions are clearly stated as such and are always backed by the facts. I challenged a more conservative leaning friend to watch an hour of her program and please feel free to point out anything she states as fact that isn't. He was forced to concede. He still doesn't like her, (shocking, I know) but it's not due to her having misreprestented any factual information. I think he's actually disturbed by her haircut. But that's a whole other thread.
But for news...well, I like actual news. I like NPR, I read several newspapers and periodicals, and strictly for the entertainment value, a number of on-line news/opinion sites.
I leave the badly misinformed opinion presented as news to the right.Posted on September 21, 2010 - 08:12 AM #
Almost ten years before Rush Limbaugh had a national show, a man by the name of Richard A. Viguerie wrote a book titled The New Right: We're Ready to Win. In the book, Viguerie describes how his company, which did direct-mail advertising campaigns for conservative candidates and causes, was part of the only network that conservatives had for communicating, as mainstream broadcast and print outlets leaned left. Viguerie boasted that direct-mail had been successful in bringing together a variety of single-issue people into a cohesive "new right" movement. In the late 1980s, Limbaugh created a national infotainment show that appealed to people of the "new right" ideology.
I believe that there are left-wing ideologues, but for some reason, they are not unified under a common umbrella in the way that their conservative counterparts are. There are animal rights people, human rights people, environmental people, urban poverty activists, people who want the government to implement a program to deal with X or to increase spending on dealing with Y, there are people who are fans of specific countries that they perceive as being more left-leaning than the US, etc. Some 20 years ago, I recall hearing a recording of a lecture by Jello Biafra, where he expressed the idea that much could be accomplished if these different groups of people within "the left" could be brought together.
Both the left and right have their own publications and media, as they have for many years. I think that the difference is that the left-wing outlets tend to be focused on specific issues. This fragmentation is acceptable on the Internet or on non-commercial radio. Commercial programmers are probably a bit gun-shy about creating a format where there might be an animal rights show followed by a show about the environment, followed by a labor show, followed by a show about global politics. The TSL for such a format, in their view, would be too short.Posted on September 21, 2010 - 10:43 AM #
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