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Can we use "What's New?" for PDXRadio Meta?

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  • Started 1 year ago by missing_kskd
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  1. Meta is discussion about the PDXRadio venue and discussion.

    I'm wanting to start a word clowd discussion and realized it's not political, but is other things. However, it's really ABOUT the product of other things, which makes it meta discussion and we've not had a class of discussion for that before.

    I'll gladly plop it into other things, but I'm really hoping we might find a set of expectations here that are similar to those on the Radio specific discussion class. There, we don't do political and we keep it rational and of good form as much as we can manage.

    For meta discussion, not going political applies in my view, as does keeping it clean and focused on the product of PDXRadio and the mechanics and such.

    Make sense, or not?

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 08:38 AM #
  2. Dan_Packard

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    I'd like to keep this "what's new" category basically brief, clean and simple. I'm not sure what you mean by "meta". Neuter?

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 11:06 AM #
  3. LOL!!

    Meta is actually "data about something". This discussion is a meta discussion in that it is about PDXRadio itself. On many forums and message boards, the word "meta" is used to characterize discussion that is about the venue and people that inhabit it. Mechanics, norms, expectations, feature function, memes, etc...

    I thought the tag cloud, being a new feature function would sort of fit, but now I also think it would very likely wander enough to fail on "simple" and "brief". That's two strikes outta three, meaning I'll just toss it in other things and call it good.

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 12:21 PM #
  4. Missing, is there by any chance an English translation of what you are talking about.

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 12:24 PM #
  5. Now that's funny!!

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 12:38 PM #
  6. That settles it! Other things it is.

    Ok Deane, let me try this.

    Say we invoke a radio station. Call it KABC. We then have the station, it's staff, listeners, and physical things, buildings, tower and such.

    Say that KABC runs a call in talk show, with our host Bob Blowhard.

    If Bob were to start a discussion about daily events on his show, that would be a KABC hosted discussion. Not meta-discussion.

    If Bob were to talk about up-coming changes in how his show works, or KABC decided to talk about program changes, engineering changes or whatever, those would be usually characterized as announcements.

    Where we have the Internet, those kinds of things often end up as full on discussions, just because of how the tech works. A radio analogy would be an announcement, followed by a nice segment on the BB show where people could call in and talk about that stuff.

    With me so far?

    In computers there is the concept of data. Data exists on the machine and over time it ends up being talked about, organized, filtered, and such.

    This activity actually results in more data about the data that is the point of discussion!

    This is meta-data. (and is actually a large part of what I do for a living)

    Many Internet discussion boards early on were largely inhabited by geeks and nerds. After all, they built the things first, then everybody else came to the party and here we are today.

    The term "meta" and the concept associated with it grew to be accepted not as a prefix, but as a stand alone word associated with self-interest discussion in the same way that data about data is meta data, discussion about the discussion is meta-discussion, or just meta.

    Does that make sense?

    When I then ask, "Can we use this for meta?", the obvious context is PDXRadio because we are here, not somewhere else.

    UGH...

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 12:38 PM #
  7. Sorry, it's too deep for me. You better run it by Trixter.

    But, I'll be watching this thread and try to catch on.

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 12:43 PM #
  8. How about the very simple, meta = discussion about pdxradio discussion?

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 12:47 PM #
  9. "Many Internet discussion boards early on were largely inhabited by geeks and nerds. After all, they built the things first, then everybody else came to the party and here we are today."

    Sort of like radio broadcasting. The scientists and engineers created the technology and then along came Sarnoff thinking "We can make millions."

    Sooooo

    that makes this entire discussion board meta.

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 12:50 PM #
  10. "How about the very simple, meta = discussion about pdxradio discussion?"

    That works better. You don't need a separate section for that. You could start a thread, if I understand what you're getting at.

    You're suggesting putting the discussion on a shrink's office couch, but not the subject matter.

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 12:51 PM #
  11. Dan_Packard

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    This reminds me of the first Star Trek episode where the guys with the throbbing brains are looking down at Capt. Pike in the cage. I like where you are coming from Missing, trying to look at things in different ways. Maybe sometime down the line, it could warrant a different category or framework of discourse.

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 04:55 PM #
  12. Given this thread, it might just be entertaining. That's a great analogy too Dan. Love it. No worries from me. It was idle musing that ended up being this thread. At least it entertained!

    LOL@Andy -->Yep, it's all meta.

    Frankly, as much attention as we tend to give to meta, I'm quite surprised the term doesn't see more general use.

    Posted on June 19, 2009 - 06:04 PM #

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