Here's some local tv news. Amy Troy is headed to KOIN to anchor its 4 PM newscast. She has a 6 month non compete. Amy is easy on the eyes and talented. A winning combo in the tv business. Big loss for KGW which has really turned into a grease fire in the last couple years. The new GM is not well liked and is turning the place upside down.
Amy Troy to KOIN(28 posts)
Posted on August 12, 2011 - 08:01 PM #
Which means that she'll come on board at KOIN just in time for Feb. 2012 sweeps, right? Best, M.Posted on August 12, 2011 - 11:30 PM #
Good Career move? Better job, horrible station.
Ask Bruce the weather guy.
Sorry to see Amy leave KGW mothership.Posted on August 13, 2011 - 09:02 AM #
I sometimes take a break from reading and watch the television news. What I recall about Amy Troy was a fatigued anchor. My opinion is local television news has been poor to adapt to change in media. Belo still thinks in the era of Friends, Oprah, Seinfeld, Law and Order, Frazier, ... People connect differently today. I'm not sure the same shows done today would be a hit. Doing the same broadcast they did 15 years old won't be watched.
"Amy is easy on the eyes and talented. A winning combo in the tv business."
I think she's very average.
That wouldn't of been said 15 years ago. KOIN can shamelessly do the attractive broadcaster. Why watch. If you're into that sort of thing, the internet is full of attractive people.
KGW is visually uninteresting. Their content is meh. They don't confront any real problems that face us. Worse their advertising format is old. It's easy to flip and avoid the ads.Posted on August 13, 2011 - 02:59 PM #
You're right, KGW hasn't refereshed the look of their newscasts since before the analog/digital TV changeover. Best, M.Posted on August 13, 2011 - 06:29 PM #
Amy will likely get more face time in place of the field reporting she did weekdays at KGW and only anchored on weekends. Actually I see a few former KOIN reporters are now over at KGW (Tim Gordon and the man originally hired to host the early a.m. KOIN morning show.)
Other observations--- KGW’s 11 P.M. newscast now appears to begin just a few minutes past 11 allowing for more commercials to be sold. Stations used to fight to be first on-air, even beginning at 4:59 p.m. and 10:59 p.m. Is KGW breaking an industry trend? This doesn’t appear to be the case with KGW’s 5 p.m. newscast, which currently transitions right out of Oprah.
I’ve always thought KGW’s general assignment and political reporter, Randy Neves, (who does a great job of reporting), looks like Sherman from the Mr. Peabody cartoon. (http://www.tvacres.com/images/wabac.jpg)
While many new faces are showing up on the newscasts of all stations, KOIN has always seemed to be the most dysfunctional and never able to find it’s groove. Much like the “CBS Morning Show” up against “Today” and “Good Morning America.” Poor Mike Donahue—what a consummate professional no matter where they stick him.Posted on August 13, 2011 - 07:26 PM #
KOIN is a shadow of its former self. Agreed, Mike Donahue WAS KOIN. Too bad management felt he was past his prime, which is not true.
KOIN should bring Donahue back for an early evening co-anchor position, or even solo.
KOIN has improved its graphic/set look in the past 6 months, but that is just cosmetics. They need quality anchors/reporters, perhaps familiar faces, so Any may be a start. Much more needs to be done.Posted on August 13, 2011 - 09:54 PM #
This does not signal a sea change. Amy's great, she has two little kids and took a weekday job and nobody at 1501 SW Jeff blames her. But KGW still rules the roost. Anybody in local television knows that.Posted on August 13, 2011 - 10:04 PM #
KGW is scared sh**less right now. For the first time in 2 decades Oprah won't be leading them into the evening news block this fall... NBC prime is weak... and they've lost tons of talented people in the last few years. They've replaced a lot of these people with also-rans from other stations.Posted on August 13, 2011 - 10:30 PM #
Every station that used Oprah as a lead-in to their 5PM news (many Oprah affils did) is scared! Where will that 4PM audience go? Can Dr. Phil (produced by Oprah) keep those viewers, or will those viewers go elsewhere? It's gonna change the ballgame in many parts of the country this fall. Best, M.Posted on August 14, 2011 - 06:45 AM #
Moving over to KOIN. Is that station still on? They still have news?Posted on August 14, 2011 - 10:52 AM #
They've replaced a lot of these people with also-rans from other stations.
Ummmm KOIN, KPTV and KATU have been doing the same thing for the last 40 years. It's a business!Posted on August 14, 2011 - 10:54 AM #
It is mentioned above that KGW is worried becasue they will no longer have the Oprah lead-in.
If I were advising them, I would warn them to be more worried about having Ed Teachout doing so many stories on Camera. Are they trying to 'dumb down' their audience or does he really work cheap? The gentleman needs to get a clothing advisor and a tailor to help him get his suits to fit correctly. Man, when he is on I think I am watching local news in Lakeview or Goldendale.
What happened to all their good reporters? Did they let them walk over money?
ODPosted on August 16, 2011 - 09:43 AM #
I like Amy a lot, but I won't be following her over to KOIN. They are just painful to watch. As long as Laurel Porter and Joe Donlon are on KGW, I'm sticking with them.Posted on August 16, 2011 - 02:06 PM #
I like Amy a lot, but I won't be following her over to KOIN. They are just painful to watch.
You and me both! UGH!Posted on August 16, 2011 - 03:22 PM #
There's no question KOIN is tough to watch. I just think KGW should have done something to keep Amy around. But that's the philosophy at KGW these days. Management thinks its the reason the station has been on top for the last several years when in reality the anchors and photographers are the backbone of the station. Look at the talent that has left recently... Randy Neves owned the city hall beat... Jack Penning was terrific as was Scott Burton. These guys didn't go to another station. They left the business. If KGW was so great these guys would have stayed.Posted on August 17, 2011 - 03:31 PM #
There are comparisons between KOIN and KIRO Seattle. Both CBS affiliates, KIRO went through some very difficult times in the mid-90s, even losing their network affiliation at one point. When they got it back a couple years later, it was a long, tough road to regaining even competitive status. However, today they are indeed competitive, and while they struggle to beat KING, they have made inroads. How did they do it? By not reinventing the wheel...back to basics...finding good stories, hiring good, compelling anchors and reporters, (for example, Angela Russell, from Boston, a couple years back to be one of the main anchors). It really isn't that complicated. KOIN seems to have made it complicated, which is the wrong approach.
BTW, in Seattle, KOMO is the one struggling right now. Their stand-up, sit-down presentation seems to be wearing a little thin, and they need to replace Kathi Goertzen, who sadly will probably not anchor again due to her health condition. She is a great anchor, and much beloved in the community, but KOMO needs to move on.Posted on August 17, 2011 - 05:30 PM #
I think for a lot of us the television advertising revenue model of the mid 90's is of the past. A Few would do it. Internet killed the television star and the movie star. Most of us will have to find new ways to raise revenue in this new era of media.Posted on August 17, 2011 - 07:05 PM #
Good point, listener guy, however local tv news is STILL a strong revenue producer. When it ceases to be, then these competitive battles will no longer be. Or atleast in a far reduced form. This era is still 10-15 years out in my mind. Remember, network evening news was declared dead in 1980, but guess what, it is still around.Posted on August 17, 2011 - 07:13 PM #
It's true, my TV watching has dwindled. I watch virtually no movies now. Most of my time is spent on the web. I find Radio to be a great complement to the internet.Posted on August 17, 2011 - 07:20 PM #
Mr Walker I read your point and took note.
I think television can succeed but they will have to change their revenue model. I haven't bought anything base on a 30 second television ad for years. Politicians and special interests will still buy ads to tell viewers how to vote. So broadcast has that going for it. I do believe voters will be more influenced by other mediums than broadcast in future. I don't have a lot of optimism for the future of broadcast as is.Posted on August 17, 2011 - 07:39 PM #
Yes, the revenue model is indeed changing. I just question how fast it is changing. We still hear national ad buys on radio and tv, perhaps not to the extent of 10 years ago, but they are still there. I think the slowdown in the economy over the past three years has actually benefited the older technologies, and until we get out of this economic funk, radio and tv will do just fine. After that, I agree, all bets are off.
Let me just add this comparison. When cable tv came into prominance in the early 80's, everyone said network and local tv were done. This did not happen. Likewise, today's technology, while changing the landscape will likely not kill network and local tv. I would add the caveat that local broadcast media must continue to evolve and adapt and adopt to all new technology in addition to their basic platform.Posted on August 17, 2011 - 07:48 PM #
That's where TV and radio multicasts come in. Most places now have at least one TV station offering a 24-hour weather service. (AccuWeather is producing just such a service for several stations across the country; others are producing such services on their own, such as NBC stations maintaing their Weather Plus services, even though NBC no longer produces nat'l content. KGW, of course, has sister KGWZ doing 24-hr weather, but Comcast hasn't thought to carry it.) Many stations are experimenting with 24-hour news services (KGW and KEZI, for example). Others are joining up with netlets offering alternate programming (America One, Antenna TV, Retro TV, etc.). And radio stations are using their multicasts to experiment w/alternate formats. These will take time to get off the ground and take hold. (Comcast et al would help by carrying more TV multicasts and letting viewers judge those services for themselves.)
Best, M.Posted on August 17, 2011 - 09:26 PM #
I should add a preface to this post that I'm in no way trashing those in TV news, like everywhere else I know there are people that give 100%+ but are just one person and can't do everything. I'm also posting about the topic of TV news in general and not about one station or any individual.
I rarely watch TV news these days. Stopped watching practically altogether after the whole Iraq thing heated up and a lot of the stories had subliminal messages that 'war is good and necessary.' Either that or were stupid filler "lifestyle" garbage anybody can get anywhere. Even the other day when I was somewhere with a TV turned on a local station doing a news promo that got my interest, I instead went online to get the info instead of waiting for the news broadcast.
And the last time I actually ENJOYED watching local news? One line: "How's your energy, PORTLAND?"
These days I rather like drivetime radio news on stations like KXL, KPAM, and KOMO when they come in overnight.
I once said over a decade ago that TV could go away leaving radio and the internet. For some, that's already happened (think movie and other visual program streaming).
Any time I almost get the itch to watch TV news, it's practically filled by visiting the infamous "News Music Search Archive" where I can hear the opener music minus the rest of everything else.
Not all is lost though, I still think TV news can become relevant again. Whether or not everybody has the guts to fund what it would take is probably anyone's guess.Posted on August 18, 2011 - 10:12 AM #
Speaking of troubles at KGW, they should change their slogan to:
"Northwest News Channel 8, Where The Commercials Come First!"
Has anyone noticed at 11:00pm when the other stations are beginning their newscasts, KGW is still into commercials for a full minute more? So at 11:01pm when KGW starts playing its theme song, if you're on one of the other channels, you're most likely on the second story of the night.
Since figuring this out, I don't watch channel 8 news at 11 anymore. Why Wait?Posted on August 19, 2011 - 11:29 PM #
Ha! Craig, you hit on an amazing point. Insiders tell me this is indeed a big topic of discussion. The start point, especially at 11, is important. You better capture the audience first, or you may lose them. Yes, the lead-in show is important, but I have seen research that shows that when viewers are through with their primetime program they flip around to find the best "catch" of local news. Nice pickup, Craig.Posted on August 19, 2011 - 11:34 PM #
TV lost me when they started to appeal to the Nancy Grace Trash. She's more classless than Glenn Beck.Posted on August 20, 2011 - 01:07 AM #
KGW usually starts Saturday Night Live at 11:29pm!! Most NBC stations use 11:30 or 11:35. Best, M.Posted on August 20, 2011 - 07:34 AM #
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